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    1000pt black legion chaos army

    plz rate my army. i also have one question. if khorne berzerkers count as an elight choice does that mean that my army is illigal seeming that i only have one other troop unit?


    1 Chaos Lord (HQ) @ 138 Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; Lightning Claw; Combi-Bolter
    Terminator Armour
    Daemonic Strength
    Daemonic Resilience

    7 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 256 Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; CC Weapon (x7); Bolter (x5); Heavy Bolter (x1);
    Plasma Gun (x1); Frag Grenades
    1 Aspiring Champion @ [49] Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; Power Fist (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag
    Grenades
    Daemonic Strength
    1 Chaos Rhino @ [80] Pts
    Combi-Bolter
    Havoc Launcher
    Dozer Blade

    11 Khorne Berzerkers Chaos Space Marines (Elites) @ 307 Pts
    Mark of Khorne; Chainaxe (x11); Bolt Pistol (x11); Frag Grenades; Krak
    Grenades
    1 Aspiring Champion @ [54] Pts
    Mark of Khorne; Power Weapon (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades;
    Krak Grenades
    Krak Grenades
    Daemonic Strength
    Daemonic Visage

    3 Chaos Bikers (Fast Attack) @ 176 Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; CC Weapon (x3); Combi-Bolter (x3); Skilled Riders
    #Chaos Marine Bike
    #Skilled Riders
    1 Aspiring Champion @ [65] Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; Power Weapon (x1); Combi-Bolter; Skilled
    Riders
    #Chaos Marine Bike
    #Skilled Riders
    Daemonic Strength

    1 Chaos Dreadnought (Heavy Support) @ 125 Pts
    Bolters; TL Lascannons

    Total Army Cost: 1002

    Last edited by Frost; November 29th, 2005 at 11:01.

    DOWN WITH THE FALSE EMPEROR!!!MAY HIS GALAXY BURN!!!

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    Yes, sadly your list is illegal as the khorne berserkers would count as eilte choices in this army. If these are the only models you have access to and just want to play you can simply give your lord the mark of khorne instead and then your list would become legal as you would fit the required troop choices and the models with the mark of khorne would be allowed to stay in their original Fore Org. Slot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost
    plz rate my army. i also have one question. if khorne berzerkers count as an elight choice does that mean that my army is illigal seeming that i only have one other troop unit?
    Yes you need another troop choice. I would add a 5 man lascanon team for anti-tank.

    I've just skimmed through the list cause I don't have much time, but bike teams in my experience are better in larger battles. In 1000 points go with more troops.

    Give your dread extra armour and smoke launchers (this goes for pretty much all vehicles). The dread is your only real anti-tank by the looks of it. If that gets toasted your in trouble, especially against mech infantry or IG. I always take 2 lascannon teams for anti-tank. Consider obliterators too

    Your Rhino doesn't need a dozer blade, I play Black Legion mechanised infantry and I've never taken or needed them (I'm going to regret saying that). Speaking of which I don't really understand what you want from your rhino squad. Either make it cc or shooty not both.

    Viasage is a good and cheap gift IMHO I take it with any squad thats going to see combat.

    Your lord looks good but I think termie armour is kind of redundant nowadays, spend the points on more troops. I also take lieutenants in 1000pts rather than lords (I switch to lords at 1500pts) but thats up to you.

    Berserkers look good but they dont need krak grenades. Give the champ a fist and take away daemonic strength he wont need it. Give them talisman of burning blood or a rhino, they need more speed. Also remember they are elite so you definitely need more troops

    Thanks for the rep btw
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    what if i simply just give my kohrne berzerkers a mark of chaos undivided and simply play them as a normal chaos marunes squad?

    DOWN WITH THE FALSE EMPEROR!!!MAY HIS GALAXY BURN!!!

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    That works as well, you could claim they just have bolt pistols and ccws, and that they looted their armour off of some berzerkers... I mean what is there to say that one CSM wont steal another CSM's armour as long as it's not fused with him...

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    Give them infiltrate otherwise they'll be too slow

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    Most of the points have been raised. A couple more things:

    Quote Originally Posted by Frost

    1 Chaos Lord (HQ) @ 138 Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; Lightning Claw; Combi-Bolter
    Terminator Armour
    Daemonic Strength
    Daemonic Resilience
    He's rather expensive, and as it stands, he doesn't do much- to put it bluntly. First, in a 1000 point build you should be taking a chaos lt. They are cheaper and will serve virtually the same role. Typically in a 1000 point build, the hq either sits back and fires a kai gun, or accompanies a squad into c.c. Consider one of these options. With your current build a chaos lt w/ a kai gun is ridiculouslycheap for what he does. He can manage light vehicles (land speeders and rhinos to boot!), expensive hqs, devastator squads, etc.

    If you're going to make a c.c. hq, then give him a darkblade & infiltrate and have him accompany one of your troop squads, though, presently, this would be difficult, since none of your troops infiltrate. It's too costly to have troops footslogg across the board, when they could be infiltrating.


    Quote Originally Posted by Frost
    7 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 256 Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; CC Weapon (x7); Bolter (x5); Heavy Bolter (x1);
    Plasma Gun (x1); Frag Grenades
    1 Aspiring Champion @ [49] Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; Power Fist (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag
    Grenades
    Daemonic Strength
    1 Chaos Rhino @ [80] Pts
    Combi-Bolter
    Havoc Launcher
    Dozer Blade
    Impending slaughter touched on the issues with the rhino.

    This squad looks like a ranged unit, but it lacks hard hitting ranged weapons. I've really had good experience with 2 plasma guns in a 7 man squad w/ infiltrate. This drastically cuts down on the unit cost and puts the squad directly in your opponents face (best with rapid fire weapons). Overall, 2 plasma guns are more versatile than the heavy bolter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frost
    11 Khorne Berzerkers Chaos Space Marines (Elites) @ 307 Pts
    Mark of Khorne; Chainaxe (x11); Bolt Pistol (x11); Frag Grenades; Krak
    Grenades
    1 Aspiring Champion @ [54] Pts
    Mark of Khorne; Power Weapon (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades;
    Krak Grenades
    Krak Grenades
    Daemonic Strength
    Daemonic Visage
    Again, as Impending slaughter said, zerkers need Burning Blood. You don't need krack grenades (22 points saved). On this large of a squad there's no reason to take a power weapon. Make use of all those wounds you have and take a fist (following slaughter's advise).

    Because zerkers are so uncontrollable, you may want to make these pups chaos undivided, as you mentioned earlier. This would allow you to use special weapons. You could drop the squad down to 8 or 9 and infiltrate them. Keep the fist and add 2 melta guns for tank popping. This greatly reduces the cost of the squad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frost
    3 Chaos Bikers (Fast Attack) @ 176 Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; CC Weapon (x3); Combi-Bolter (x3); Skilled Riders
    #Chaos Marine Bike
    #Skilled Riders
    1 Aspiring Champion @ [65] Pts
    Mark of Chaos Undivided; Power Weapon (x1); Combi-Bolter; Skilled
    Riders
    #Chaos Marine Bike
    #Skilled Riders
    Daemonic Strength
    Three bikes simply are not worth it. Even if they tubo-boost they will likely be killed by a ranged army (such as Tau or ranged Space Marines). I've used bikes effectively in a 1000 point build, but that was with a Khorne with bloodletters summoned from the bikes. You may want to consider dropping these guys and getting another infiltrating c.c. squad.

    If you still want bikes, then increase their number to 6. Drop skilled rider, as it doesn't really do much. Give the whole squad furious charge, because you don't want your opponent to be killing your most expensive troop models. Add 2 melta guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frost
    1 Chaos Dreadnought (Heavy Support) @ 125 Pts
    He needs daemonic possession.

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    I know this is off the subject, but what do the stars by people's name mean on the reputation line? Sorry, I'ma nube and could not find this info anywhere on the site.

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