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    1500 Tzeentch (Azazel's Legion)

    Hello everyone. This is my first Taeentch list ever. I took a peak at Lord of Changes Tactica, and took bitz and pieces from that. Any help would be appreciated. I know Tzeentch mainly focuses on ranged power over combat, but the Tactica demonstrated the power of close combat lords, so i am using an immensly expensive one. Thanx for the help.

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    Azazel, The Keeper of Souls
    -191pts
    -Bolt Pistol
    -Bedlam Staff
    -Disc of Tzeentch
    -Daemonic Aura
    -Daemonic Strength
    -Daemonic Essence
    -Daemonic Visage
    -Wind of Chaos

    TROOPS

    Thousand Sons Squad 261pts
    8 Sons with bolters
    +Aspiring Champion
    Bolt Pistol, Power Fist
    -Bolt of Change

    Thousand Sons Squad 261pts
    8 Sons with bolters
    +Aspiring Champion
    Bolt Pistol, Power Fist
    -Doom Bolt
    -3 Thrall Wizards

    Thousand Sons Squad 261pts
    8 Sons with bolters
    +Aspiring Champion
    Bolt Pistol, Power Fist
    -Doom Bolt
    -3 Thrall Wizards

    HEAVY SUPPORT


    Predator 195pts
    -Mutated Hull
    -Daemonic Possesion
    -Lascannon Turret
    -Lascannon Sponsons

    Dreadnought 165pts
    -Mutated Hull
    -Extra Armor
    -Coruscating Warp Flame
    -Plasma Cannon
    -Combat Arm

    Defiler 150pts
    -Daemonic Possesion
    -Indirect Fire

    Total:1509
    Head Count: 24 Automatons, 4 Sorcerors, 6 Thrall Wizards
    Armor Count: 3

    Last edited by GreyKnight6962; December 14th, 2005 at 00:43.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyKnight6962

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    Sorcerer Lord Azazel
    -191pts
    -Bolt Pistol
    -Bedlam Staff
    -Disc of Tzeentch
    -Daemonic Aura
    -Daemonic Strength
    -Daemonic Essence
    -Daemonic Visage
    -Wind of Chaos
    Bedlam staff- drop it, unless you simply like the fluff. It's not very effective.
    Essence- drop it. It's rather expensive, and you should be ok without it.

    Darkblade- this is one of the best weapons in the game. You can drop daemonic strength if you wish, but it's not a bad idea to retain it as an additional strength modifier. It's virtually on every one of my T.S. lords.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreyKnight6962
    Thousand Sons Squad 261pts
    8 Sons with bolters
    +Aspiring Champion
    Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon
    -Doom Bolt
    -Daemonic Strength
    -3 Thrall Wizards
    Your A.C. is crying out for a power fist. Remember, you have 17 wounds before he falls, so you don't have to worry about him dying to the 1 init.

    A rhino is not a bad idea either- at least for one of your squads. It's the only mobility you have for your troops, and will play a vital role in certain missions.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreyKnight6962
    Predator 195pts
    -Mutated Hull
    -Parasitic Possesion
    What weapons are configured on the pred? I would put a hull autocannon and lascannon sponsons. This gives you the most bang for your buck.
    Drop par possession for sure. It's not worth the points. Daemonic possession is by far the superior choice. Also, I would drop mut hull, because it really raises the cost of your vehicle.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreyKnight6962
    Dreadnought 185pts
    -Mutated Hull
    -Parasitic Possesion
    -Extra Armor
    -Coruscating Warp Flame
    Again, what weapons? Consider dropping the dread for another pred. You really need a vehicle that can at least take down more than 1-2 troops per round. Consider taking another pred just like the one I advised above.
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    Defiler 150pts
    -Daemonic Possesion
    Consider giving the defiler indirect fire.
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    oops

    accidentaly pasted a Thousand Son squad too many times. will remove at once.

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    You're actually 261 points over 1504, so I think you may have added an extra troop choice by mistake.

    Also, what weapons do your Dreadnought and Predator have? From the points costs, I'd assume it's lascannons.

    All that being assumed, it looks like a fairly solid list. The Lord isn't TOO expensive, but he doesn't strike me as being a close-combat monster, not compared to some of the more brutal chaos lords out there. He'd do ok against opposing squads, but don't expect any over-whelming slaughters. Winds of Chaos is a nice touch for him, too many people favor Gift of Chaos.

    Also, I don't really know if Parastic Possession is the best choice for Predator (which I think should have Daemonic Possession) and the Dreadnought. I like the Warp Flame on the dread though, it's a nifty power that I think is underused.

    Finally, because I'm sure you'll hear this a lot, ever think about giving your defiler indirect fire?

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    Vehicle Weaponry, Price of Lord

    Sorry for not posting the weapons. Currently the Predator has straight lascannons. The Dread had a plasma cannon, can a combat arm. I am sorry if i mislead you into thinking my Lord was overly expensive. If you look in my signature, you can tell that the armies i play have HQ units in the cheaper area of things (IG command squad with 70 point HQ model and free command squad, Edlar Farseers around 90 points a piece, Space MArine commander 146). I will update the list after this post. Deosn't the bedlam staff prevent the attacker from attacking next turn if he has been wounded? i personaly like that.
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    Are there any other critiques? at all? revisions have been made and any and all suggestions would be very helpful.
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    That is a very solid list and it doesn't need changing except maybe giving the pred H. bolter sponsons but otherwise its a good list IMO- just make sure the lord is in the right place at the right time in games otherwise he is a bit of a points drain (not too much mind).

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