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    [1000] Alpha Legion

    Been meaning to register and post this list for a while. Just getting back into the hobby after about a 10 year break, instead of picking up Eldar or Marines again I decided to switch things up a bit and try Chaos.

    Lieutenant, 107 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    Bolt Pistol
    Power Sword
    Frag Grenades
    Daemonic Aura
    Daemonic Resilience
    Daemonic Strength

    7 CSM, 157 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    Frag Grenades
    5 x Bolt Pistol/CCW
    1 x Meltagun
    Aspiring Champion
    Power Fist

    7 CSM, 157 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    Frag Grenades
    5 x Bolt Pistol/CCW
    1 x Meltagun
    Aspiring Champion
    Power Fist

    7 CSM, 132 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    5 x Bolters
    2 x Plasma Guns

    7 CSM, 132 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    5 x Bolters
    2 x Plasma Guns

    7 Havocs, 152 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    5 x Bolters
    2 x Missile Launchers (Interchangeable with Autocannons)

    7 Havocs, 162
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    2 x Heavy Bolters
    1 x Autocannon

    Total: 999
    Models: 43

    Tried to cram as many bodies in as possible, big fan of infantry based armies for the most part. Left Tank Hunters off the Havocs at this point total (anything higher and it gets added in) so I'm more or less likely to field 2 missile launchers over 2 autocannons if I expect armor, leaving the second squad for horde trimming.

    In the process of stripping/assembling right now (eBay is a godsend when you don't mind stripping everything), just been tinkering around with different army ideas... and trying to get as much painting practice as I can before I get started. Never was the best of painters, but 10 years of slacking off and I was in for a shock.


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    Well then - welcome back to the hobby, welcome to Chaos, and welcome to Librarium Online. Whew.

    Pleasantries aside, let's look at the list -

    The Lt. is great. Cheap, pretty effective, and it's not critical that he actually do something. He complements the army without holding it up - very nice. I would suggest a Darkblade instead of the Powerweapon + Strength combination, but that would require you to drop the Aura.

    The squads themselves are pretty good, I just wish you had more points to work with. So, instead I'll give you some tips on how to improve it once you start going to higher points games.

    Make the squads eight men strong. Even numbered squads are always preferable to odd. The only time you want to go with odd sized squads is when Death Guard and 1K Sons armies.

    The Havocs could have a few more heavy weapons - two in a squad just seems to be a waste of a Heavy Support slot, to me. I see you've read my article on ML vs Autocannons, since you seem pretty well informed on when to use each.

    Really, it looks like a solid list as it is. I can't really say anything bad about it.


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    Thanks for the reply, and for the welcome.

    I ended up creating this list based on what I'm expecting to field for 2000 points, just to gimme a chance to try a few things out and see where I need to tweak. Changing a few things around (trying to bump up squad sizes, consolidating heavy weapons into one squad).

    Lord, 122 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    Bolt Pistol
    Dark Blade
    Frag Grenades
    Daemonic Aura
    Daemonic Resilience

    8 CSM, 174 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    Frag Grenades
    6 x Bolt Pistol/CCW
    1 x Meltagun
    Aspiring Champion
    Power Fist

    8 CSM, 174 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    Frag Grenades
    6 x Bolt Pistol/CCW
    1 x Meltagun
    Aspiring Champion
    Power Fist

    8 CSM, 148 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    6 x Bolters
    2 x Plasma Guns

    8 CSM, 148 points
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    6 x Bolters
    2 x Plasma Guns

    8 Havocs, 232
    Mark: Undivided
    Infiltrate
    Tank Hunters
    4 x Bolters
    4 x Autocannons

    Total: 998
    Models: 41

    I ended up losing all of two marines and a pair of heavy bolters, but gained another autocannon/Tank Hunters and enough room to field my Lord. Ditched the missile launchers for now, shouldn't see a whole lot of heavy armor.

    Only downside I see to the changes is the loss of being able to split my heavy weapons fire, having two weapons for armor and a seperate squad for infantry had some appeal. I'd actually decided to use autocannons as my primary weapon before I saw your article on launchers vs autocannons (partly because I wanted to keep away from single shot weapons, partly because a multishot, effective strength 8 weapon is too good to pass up), having the hard numbers to back up my choice was a godsend though. Anyone who hasn't read it yet should definately take a look.

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    I think you´re really on to something here...
    I've been tinkering with 1k Al lists for quite some time now, changing unit size, equipment, deciding wether or not to have a champion in every unit etc...

    During this time, I've produced a serious amount of army list. Thought you might be interested in taking a look:

    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed] 91p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, flamer, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 171p
    Lt and squad deploy together. Lt can charge on T1 with speed and infiltrate.

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    Infiltrate and unleash DEATH!

    8 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 132p
    8 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 132p
    Deploy in cover. Hold quarters in cleanse and prevent the opponent from out-infiltrating me.

    6 Havocs [Infiltrate, MoCU 4 ACs, tank hunters] 194p
    8 S8 rounds hitting tanks in the flank is just BRUTAL!

    1000p
    48 models
    ___________________________________________________________________________ ____


    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed] 91p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, Champ with bp and PF] 163p
    Lt and squad deploy together. Lt can charge on T1 with speed and infiltrate.

    10CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF] 198p

    10 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 170p
    10 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 170p
    Infiltrate and unleash DEATH!

    6 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 104p
    6 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 104p
    Deploy in cover. Hold quarters in cleanse and prevent the opponent from out-infiltrating me.

    1000p
    52 marines
    ___________________________________________________________________________ ____

    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed] 91p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, 2 flamers, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 177p


    10CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF] 198p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 HB] 135p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 HB] 135p


    8 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 132p
    8 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 132p


    1000p
    52 marines
    ___________________________________________________________________________ ____






    LORD [Stature, daemonic speed, 2 CCW, frags] 93p

    10 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 flamers, Champ with bp and PF] 190p

    10 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF] 198p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p

    6 CSM [bolters, 1 LC] 99p
    _________________________________________________________________________

    Lord[Stature, Speed, 2xCCW] 92p

    10CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF] 198p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 flamers, Champ with bp and PF] 160p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 HB] 135p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 HB] 135p


    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 140p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 140p

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed] 91p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 165p
    Lt and squad deploy together. Lt can charge on T1 with speed and infiltrate.

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF] 168p

    8 CSM [MoCU, Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 148p
    8 CSM [MoCU, Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 148p
    Infiltrate and unleash DEATH!

    8 CSM [MoCU, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 140p
    8 CSM [MoCU, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 140p
    Deploy in cover. Hold quarters in cleanse and prevent the opponent from out-infiltrating me.

    1000p
    50 marines

    _________________________________________________________________________
    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed] 91p
    / LORD [Stature, daemonic speed, strength, 2 CCW, frags] 103p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, 2 flamers, Champ with bp and PF] 171p

    6 CSM [Infiltrate, MoCU, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 116p
    6 CSM [Infiltrate, MoCU, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 116p
    6 CSM [Infiltrate, MoCU, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 116p

    6 CSM [MoCU, bolters, 1 ML] 100p
    6 CSM [MoCU, bolters, 1 ML] 100p

    6 Havocs [Infiltrate, MoCU 3 ACs, tank hunters] 174p

    ___________________________________________________________________________






    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed] 91p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 165p
    Lt and squad deploy together. Lt can charge on T1 with speed and infiltrate.

    10CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 200p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    Infiltrate and unleash DEATH!

    8 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 132p
    8 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 132p
    Deploy in cover. Hold quarters in cleanse and prevent the opponent from out-infiltrating me.

    1000p
    52 marines

    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed, frags] 92p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 165p


    6 CSM [Infiltrate, MoCU, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 116p
    6 CSM [Infiltrate, MoCU, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 116p
    6 CSM [Infiltrate, MoCU, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 116p
    6 CSM [Infiltrate, MoCU, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 116p

    6 CSM [Infiltrate, MoCU, bolters, 1 LC] 111p

    6 Havocs [Infiltrate, MoCU 3 ACs, tank hunters] 168p
    ___________________________________________________________________________ ____
    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed] 91p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 165p
    Lt and squad deploy together. Lt can charge on T1 with speed and infiltrate.

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF] 168p

    8 CSM [MoCU, Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 148p
    8 CSM [MoCU, Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 148p
    Infiltrate and unleash DEATH!

    8 CSM [MoCU, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 140p
    8 CSM [MoCU, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 140p
    Deploy in cover. Hold quarters in cleanse and prevent the opponent from out-infiltrating me.

    1000p
    50 marines

    _________________________________________________________________________
    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, daemonic speed] 91p
    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 165p
    Lt and squad deploy together. Lt can charge on T1 with speed and infiltrate.

    10CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF, visage] 200p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    Infiltrate and unleash DEATH!

    8 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 132p
    8 CSM [bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 132p

    _________________________________________________________________________

    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, Dark blade, bolt pistol, speed, frags] 92p

    9 CSM [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, 2 flamers, Champ with bp and PF] 175p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 melta guns, Champ with bp and PF, str] 173p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 140p

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 140p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 1 plasma gun, 1 ML] 140p


    _________________________________________________________________________

    Lieutenant [Infiltrate, PW, bolt pistol, daemonic speed, frags] 82p
    9 Havocs [Infiltrate, bp and ccw, Champ with bp and PF, frags] 164p
    Lt and Havocs deploy together. Lt can charge a vulnerable enemy on T1 with speed and infiltrate!

    6 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 110p
    6 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns] 110p
    Act as mobile fire support for the Lt and his Havocs.

    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns, Champ with bp and PF] 168p
    8 CSM [Infiltrate, bolters, 2 plasma guns, Champ with bp and PF] 168p
    Infiltrate and unleash DEATH!

    6 CSM [bolters, 1 LC] 99p
    6 CSM [ bolters, 1 LC] 99p
    Deploy in cover and snipe at enemy armour. Hold quarters in cleanse and prevent the opponent from "out-infiltrating" me.

    1000p


    The last one is the one I'm playing with now and it sure hasn't disappointed me

    GL!

    1aZe

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