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    Perhaps the worst ever Khorne Army (1000 points)

    Ok.. Hi everyone brand new to both Warhammer and this site... Have decided i like the look of Khorne so i tried to write an army list... Here is my first attempt based largely on what I have read here and what I like the sound of in the codex...

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    Chaos Lord
    Mark of Chaos
    Talisman of Burning Blood
    Feel No Pain
    Berserker Glaive
    Collar of Khorne
    Personal Icon
    155 points

    Troops
    8 Khornate Berserkers
    Khornate Chainaxes
    Banner of Rage
    Aspiring Champion
    With Daemonic Strength
    With Power Fist
    Rhino Transport
    With Extra Armour
    260 points

    Troops
    6 Bloodletters
    156 points

    Fast Attack
    3 Chaos Space Marine Bikers
    Marks of Khorne
    Meltagun
    Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion
    With Power Weapon
    150 points

    Heavy Support
    5 Chaos Havocs
    2 Missile Launchers
    2 Lascannon
    Aspiring Champion
    193 points

    The Grand Total = 914 points

    I was wondering if
    a) this army is legal and
    b) if you thoguht it would be any good
    c) what should i spend the last 90 or so points on


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    Ok, well, I'm pretty sure you can't have Havocs in Khornate Armies, so you should take them out and get another squad of Berserkers, maybe get 2 more bloodletters to get the favoured squad thing, drop the rhino, if you blood rage you have to get out anyways. Also, you don't ned the Banner of Rage. I would take it off and give the berserkers frag grenades, talisman of burning blood, and don't forget the free chaos Icon. Well, hop this helps, please point it out for me if I'm wrong about something. THanks.
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    If its a World Eaters army then Havocs are a no-no. Also you're decidedly lacking in infantry, especially early on the game. If you start with your berzerkers in the rhino then your lords going to be by his lonesome and is going to make an awfully tempting target.

    Bikers, especially bikers of khorne are a nice choice. Give the AC a PF and kit them out for tank hunting.

    Also, the Talisman of Burning Blood is wasted points on your lord as the Berzerker Glaive makes blood frenzy go off automatically each turn.

    Personally, I would find something to drop to get more infantry and the BGlaive is a bit much for 1k points. An AoK should do just as well and make your lord more flexible. Otherwise its not a bad list.

    Oh, also I don't think regualr zerkers can have a special Icon, only units of Chosen. So no banner of rage.

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    ummm drop some of the khorne gifts and put demonic stuff on him. get some more zerkers in

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    Hi bzzbzz, welcome to the forums.
    I'll take a stab at critiquing the list.

    Quote Originally Posted by bzzbzz
    HQ
    Chaos Lord
    Mark of Chaos
    Talisman of Burning Blood
    Feel No Pain
    Berserker Glaive
    Collar of Khorne
    Personal Icon
    155 points
    Although I've never used the glaive myself, I hear a lot of people prefer it on a statured lord, since he can't join a group. and it makes him tougher.
    Collar of khorne is only really useful if you know you will be fighting a lot of librarians and other nasty psyker stuff, most people leave it off.
    The personal icon is a matter of taste, but if you have a glaived lord, expect it to be shot at and killed a lot. At toughness of 4 there are a lot of things that will instantly kill your lord.
    You would probably be better off summoning those daemons through the troops or the bikes.
    If you are set on using the glaive, I suggest:
    Lord, Mark of Khorne, Berzerker glaive, D.Stature, D.Essence, D.Rune, Talisman of burning, Furious charge blood:170
    this gives you a lord with 8 attacks on the charge at strength 6, 4 wounds and he cannot be instantly killed. He should soak up a LOT of shooting and strong hits before he goes down.

    Quote Originally Posted by bzzbzz
    Troops
    8 Khornate Berserkers
    Khornate Chainaxes
    Banner of Rage
    Aspiring Champion
    With Daemonic Strength
    With Power Fist
    Rhino Transport
    With Extra Armour
    260 points
    Troops
    6 Bloodletters
    156 points
    I would leave the banner of rage off of the squad, along with the rhino.
    Give them furious charge, frag grenades and a talisman of burning blood.
    D strength is iffy, I don't think the aspiring champion needs it, if you must give the
    aspiring champion a daemonic gift, give him a mutation for the extra attack(5 attacks at strength 9 on the charge)

    Quote Originally Posted by bzzbzz

    Fast Attack
    3 Chaos Space Marine Bikers
    Marks of Khorne
    Meltagun
    Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion
    With Power Weapon
    150 points
    I would have more bikers, 3 is a bit sparse. If you can get them to the favored number they will get the freebies(aspiring champ and a icon for summoning) but I would not take less than 5.


    Quote Originally Posted by bzzbzz
    Heavy Support
    5 Chaos Havocs
    2 Missile Launchers
    2 Lascannon
    Aspiring Champion
    193 points

    The Grand Total = 914 points

    I was wondering if
    a) this army is legal and
    b) if you thoguht it would be any good
    c) what should i spend the last 90 or so points on
    As a lot of people have informed you already, pure Khorne armies cannot have havocs.

    If you field this army as Black legion/undivided, then you can field these havocs.You can even give them mark of chaos undivided, AND take obliterators if you so choose.

    It depends on if you want "pure" khornate army like the world eaters, if so, look at pg48 of the codex for rules on the world eaters.
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    ok

    Thanks alot everyone i will amend the list...

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    Lord, Mark of Khorne, Berzerker glaive, D.Stature, D.Essence, D.Rune, Talisman of burning, Furious charge blood:170

    Please if you're going to help the guy get your facts right theyak.

    1) you don't need talisman as glaize auto blood frenzies
    2)Plus your 105 points of Daemonic Gifts without the Talisman. Your only allowed 100.

    So if your going to help check your codex.

    I'll help you in a sec bzzbzz


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    Ok, here we go and I hope i can help.

    HQ
    Chaos Lord
    Mark of Chaos
    Talisman of Burning Blood
    Feel No Pain
    Berserker Glaive
    Collar of Khorne
    Personal Icon
    155 points

    You can do 1 of 2 things here.
    1)Take a Dark Blade and join a zerker squad.16 is a good size and you have S6 for wounding, 8 if you take D.Strength and Furious Charge.
    2)Do a Statured Lord with a large kit and start smashing. Then take the glaize as a T4 glaized lord is going to get insatnt killed especially when you haven't even given him a invun save.


    Troops
    8 Khornate Berserkers
    Khornate Chainaxes
    Banner of Rage
    Aspiring Champion
    With Daemonic Strength
    With Power Fist
    Rhino Transport
    With Extra Armour
    260 points

    No Rhinos or Banner. Here's a good cheap squad.

    8 Zerkers, 7 Chainaxes, AC with Power Fist and Talisamn of Burning Blood. All have MOK.179

    Add more of these squads. One of 16 is good with the lord.

    Troops
    6 Bloodletters
    156 points

    Make this 8

    Fast Attack
    3 Chaos Space Marine Bikers
    Marks of Khorne
    Meltagun
    Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion
    With Power Weapon
    150 points

    Drop this squad entirely.

    Heavy Support
    5 Chaos Havocs
    2 Missile Launchers
    2 Lascannon
    Aspiring Champion
    193 points

    No Havocs. Take a pred or dreadnaught.

    The Grand Total = 914 points

    I was wondering if
    a) this army is legal
    Yes, as long as you don't count it as World Eaters and have to pay for AC's in favoured squads.

    b) if you thoguht it would be any good

    No, too small and flimsy for 1000pts.

    c) what should i spend the last 90 or so points on
    You'll have a lot more points to think of now.

    Hope I helped.

    DP excerion


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    Do not chastise me D.P. . If I was incorrect, say so, and correct it.
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