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Army Name: Penetrators
Fluff: To come, but mainly fallen marines.
This is my first attempt, so please leave as many comments and suggestions as possible. Be as critical if you like, I want a strong army which is balanced at all things.
Chaos Lord, D. Aura, D. Resilience, D. Strength, L.. Claw, Plasma Pistol, MoCU, Furious charge
CSM (Close combat and bolt pistol) x 8, Plasma Pistol, Melta Gun, Frag, MoCU, Furious Charge
(inc Asp Champion with Plasma pistol and Power Fist)
CSM (bolter) x 8, Plasma Gun x 2, MoCU, Inflitrate, Frag Grenaged
(Asp Champion with Plasma Pistol and Power Sword)
Noise Marines: 239
Devastators x7, MoS, Blast Master x2, Missile Launcher, Autocannon, Sonic Blaster, Bolt Pistol and C.C weapon x2. Tank Hunters
Terminator x 6. MoCU, Furious Charge, Auto Cannon, Heavy Flamer,
(Asp Champion with Chain Fist)
CSM Bikers: 154
Biker x3, MoCU, Skilled Rider, PLasma Gun & Melta Gun
(Asp champion with melta bombs and teleport homer)
Standard pattern with mutated hull
Rhino Transport 53
Suppose I could give melta bombs to a few more aspiring champions
Last edited by Karmoon; May 28th, 2006 at 13:54.
hmmm someones gone a little overboard with plasma.Fluff is the best part of chaos as it allows you to invent your own story better than any other army, be sure to put some effort into it.Originally Posted by KarmoonWhats this guy intend to do? sit around waiting to counter charge, infiltrate is and daemonic speed is usually a good buy for a chaos lord. The plasma pistol is a NO! pair of lightning claws, pair of lightning claws, pair of lightning claws!!!Originally Posted by KarmoonHow does this intend to get into cc? It needs either a rhino or infiltrate. Also plasma pistols are not good. Drop both of them.Originally Posted by Karmoonthis is ok but a power fist instead of power sword and no plasma pistol.Originally Posted by Karmooneeer this is slightly unusual. If you want this to go tank hunting then it needs tank hunters vet skill. If its for infantry then you need to change the weapons configurations around. I presume its like this because this is what you own? If so I guess its ok.Originally Posted by KarmoonThis is ok I guess. Terminators are usually not good for 1500 points but If you like them then they can work.Originally Posted by Karmooneither 2 plasma guns or 2 meltaguns not both. Preferably the 2 meltaguns.Originally Posted by Karmoonindirect instead of mutated hull.Originally Posted by Karmoonoh, this is for the cc squad. Ok thats good then.Originally Posted by KarmoonDrop the plasma pistols and include a 5 man squad /w a lascannon.Originally Posted by KarmoonI presume you are limited in the number of models you own? some of those configurations were very varied.Originally Posted by Karmoon
Last edited by LordLink; May 28th, 2006 at 13:30.
The Lord is supposed to hang around with the CC chaps. I can get a pair of L Claws, lose the P pistol and give him demon Fire i guess.
I'm surrounded by players that are fielding black templar, marine and battle sister armies. For that reason I need the AP ability of plasma in order to have an edge over that 3+ save.
The power weapons are because I'm a bit paranoid of the initiative 1.
I haven't acquired the terminators yet, so can be flexible about them. What would you suggest instead of them? The bikers are for a terminator bomd, the reason why I want termies instead of demons is the controllability and also lack of instability. But if you have better ideas, then please tell me
I have a spare predator, but it's an old one, so has autocannon, lascannon sponson set up. I have enough parts to defile it though.
Thanks so much for your help.
Yeah my advice was assuming a balanced list designed for all armies. If you know your opponents then you get all the fun of tailoring to beat them.
Predators work wonders. ESPECIALLY the autocannon/2 lascannon setup. It is far stronger than the all lascannon setup. Caluin proved a while back that autocannons are the ultimate weapon and and when combined with the 2 lascannons the predator becomes awesome.
The bikes are fine. All they need is the 2 meltaguns. A lord that expensive inside a rhino with a cc squad is fairly risky as you could lose a lot of pts when the rhino dies.
If you want to use terminators a lot of people overllok the fact that you can use Rubric termies in undivided armies. Its quite fun to use them instead of regular termies.
The initiative 1 isnt a problem when you have a retinue around you. Only on IC's is it ever a problem.
Its an unsolved debate as to whether chaos can use a pistol /w a pair of lightning claws. You will notice chaos claws are in the two-handed weapons section rather than 2 one handed weapons like other races so perhaps you can take a pistol instead of daemonic fire and still have 2 lightning claws.
Overall include the predator if you can, drop the termies if necessary, try and make the lord more secure (i.e. infiltrating/speed).
I'll work on tightening up the lord.
Out of interest, what would you recommend as a balanced 8 man tactical squad if I am going a bit plasma crazy?