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    2500 Iron Warriors

    Hi all, I'm new to LO and relatively new to W40K as well. I've never played in any tourneys, just me and a couple friends play so I've never seen what pro level players come up with. I've had a 500 point Iron Warriors army for a while now, long enough to turn me into a paint & model addict, and am planning to build a 2500 point army if for no other reason than just to have something to do. I'd like to hear some opinions on it and maybe have somebody point me in the right direction.

    1 Chaos Lord - HQ 140 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -Daemonic Aura
    -Daemonic Resilience
    -Kai Gun
    -Power Fist

    8 Chosen Terminators - Elites 360 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Combi-bolters
    -2 Reaper Autocannons
    -Terminator Champion
    -Power Fist

    3 Obliterators - Elites 210 points

    3 Obliterators - Elites 210 points

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 145 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 145 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 145 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 145 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 159 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -5 Bolters
    -1 Heavy Bolter
    -1 Plasma Gun
    -Aspiring Champion
    -Power Fist & Bolt Pistol

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 159 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -5 Bolters
    -1 Heavy Bolter
    -1 Plasma Gun
    -Aspiring Champion
    -Power Fist & Bolt Pistol

    1 Chaos Predator - Heavy Support 183 points
    -Turret Autocannon
    -Sponson Lascannons
    -Mutated Hull
    -Havoc Launcher
    -Smoke Launcher

    1 Chaos Predator - Heavy Support 183 points
    -Turret Autocannon
    -Sponson Lascannons
    -Mutated Hull
    -Havoc Launcher
    -Smoke Launcher

    1 Chaos Predator - Heavy Support 183 points
    -Turret Autocannon
    -Sponson Lascannons
    -Mutated Hull
    -Havoc Launcher
    -Smoke Launcher

    1 Basilisk - Heavy Support 130 points
    -Indirect Fire
    -Extra Armor

    2497 points
    63 models

    Thanks in advance!


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    Kai gun is a 2 handed weapon if you don't have Daemonic Stature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAiNT-138
    1 Chaos Lord - HQ 140 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -Daemonic Aura
    -Daemonic Resilience
    -Kai Gun
    -Power Fist
    Powerfists on Independant Characters is a bad idea. They rely upon their high initiative to keep themselves alive. A Powerfist will only get him killed.

    If you're using the Kai Gun, then you really don't need anything else. Just take a standard Lt with nothing but the Kai Gun and make sure he stays behind friendly units so he can't be shot at. You really only need the Aura/Resilience if you'll be ending up in Close Combat.

    Quote Originally Posted by SAiNT-138
    8 Chosen Terminators - Elites 360 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Combi-bolters
    -2 Reaper Autocannons
    -Terminator Champion
    -Power Fist
    Very good. Simple, effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by SAiNT-138
    3 Obliterators - Elites 210 points

    3 Obliterators - Elites 210 points
    Hard to go wrong here.

    Quote Originally Posted by SAiNT-138
    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 145 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun
    I don't see the need for eight men. Consider dropping it down to either five or six men. Five if you don't care about scoring purposes, six if you play games with objectives.

    Quote Originally Posted by SAiNT-138
    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 159 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -5 Bolters
    -1 Heavy Bolter
    -1 Plasma Gun
    -Aspiring Champion
    -Power Fist & Bolt Pistol
    Mix-matched weapons. The Plasma gun doesn't complement the Heavy Bolter at all. Best to just drop it and re-invest the points somewhere else.

    Quote Originally Posted by SAiNT-138
    1 Chaos Predator - Heavy Support 183 points
    -Turret Autocannon
    -Sponson Lascannons
    -Mutated Hull
    -Havoc Launcher
    -Smoke Launcher
    I don't see the need for the Havoc Launcher. The tank is an anti-tank platform, but the Launcher is anti-infantry. Drop it and take Daemonic Possession instead, or use the points elsewhere.

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    1 Basilisk - Heavy Support 130 points
    -Indirect Fire
    -Extra Armor
    Bah, don't bother with Extra Armour. Anything that gets a bead on the Bassy and can shoot at it is going to destroy it. EA isn't going to help with that.

    Otherwise, it's a pretty decent shooty list. But you lack any counter-CC prowess. Try seeing about freeing up two Troops slots to take dedicated assaults units (8 to 10 men, BP/CCW with Powerfisted Champ) to help keep nasties away from your shooting units. A decent idea is to drop a Lascannon into the unit so it has something to do while waiting for enemy assaulters to show up.


    Quote Originally Posted by SWAT72
    Kai gun is a 2 handed weapon if you don't have Daemonic Stature.
    Do you happen to have a point behind this particular statement?


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    OK needing more CC units makes sense, although I was hoping to kill enough enemies to offset that disadvantage, if it's even possible. So I reformed the squads and the Lord and removed the havoc launchers as you suggested and here's what I come up with.

    1 Chaos Lord - HQ 101 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -Daemonic Resilience
    -Kai Gun & Close Combat Weapon

    8 Chosen Terminators - Elites 355 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Combi-bolters
    -2 Reaper Autocannons
    -8 Power Weapons
    -Terminator Champion

    3 Obliterators - Elites 210 points

    3 Obliterators - Elites 210 points

    6 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 115 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -4 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun

    6 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 115 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -4 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun

    6 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 115 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -4 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun

    6 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 115 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -4 Bolters
    -1 Lascannon
    -1 Plasma Gun

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 153 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Bolt Pistols & Close Combat Weapons
    -1 Heavy Bolter
    -Aspiring Champion
    -Bolt Pistol & Power Fist

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 153 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Bolt Pistols & Close Combat Weapons
    -1 Heavy Bolter
    -Aspiring Champion
    -Bolt Pistol & Power Fist

    7 Chaos Raptors - Fast Attack 259
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -Furious Charge
    -Aspiring Champion
    -Bolt Pistol & Power Fist

    1 Chaos Predator - Heavy Support 158 points
    -Turret Autocannon
    -Sponson Lascannons
    -Mutated Hull
    -Smoke Launcher

    1 Chaos Predator - Heavy Support 158 points
    -Turret Autocannon
    -Sponson Lascannons
    -Mutated Hull
    -Smoke Launcher

    1 Chaos Predator - Heavy Support 158 points
    -Turret Autocannon
    -Sponson Lascannons
    -Mutated Hull
    -Smoke Launcher

    1 Basilisk - Heavy Support 125 points
    -Indirect Fire

    2500 points
    66 models

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    Yes, I'm stating that Kai Gun is a two handed weapon and taking it with a CCW is illegal unless you have D. Stature.

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    SWAT72
    Yes, I'm stating that Kai Gun is a two handed weapon and taking it with a CCW is illegal unless you have D. Stature.
    If you read the section in the armoury, it states you can have either two one handed weapons or one two handed wepaon AND a one handed weapon. So its all fine.

    8 Chaos Space Marines - Troops 153 points
    -Mark of Chaos Undivided
    -6 Bolt Pistols & Close Combat Weapons
    -1 Heavy Bolter
    -Aspiring Champion
    -Bolt Pistol & Power Fist
    CC squads with heavy weapons dont really work. Id drop it and just go with more cc marines.

    I personally use dual plasma squads, and have lascannons as the only upgrade for other units. this allows the lascannon to do its job of taking out tanks, and allows the plasma to shoot at somthing it might hurt.

    I think you have a good list there.

    DJ

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