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first chaos army!! 1000 pts - Undivied

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#1 · (Edited)
Hello! I´m a new 40 player and I gonna play my first game tomorrow!!
But I need to choice my army list... can you help me with this?

1 Chaos Lieutenant (HQ) @ 111 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolt Pistol (x1)
#Infiltrate
Dark Blade
Daemonic Visage
Daemonic Aura


7 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 172 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; CC Weapon (x7); Bolt Pistol (x7)
#Infiltrate
1 Aspiring Champion
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Power Fist (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1)
#Infiltrate


7 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 172 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; CC Weapon (x7); Bolt Pistol (x7)
#Infiltrate
1 Aspiring Champion
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Power Fist (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1)
#Infiltrate


8 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 164 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolter (x6); Plasma Gun (x2)
#Infiltrate


5 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 85 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolter (x4); Missile Launcher (x1)


6 Chaos Havocs (Heavy Support) @ 148 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolter (x4); Autocannon (x2);
#Tank Hunters


6 Chaos Havocs (Heavy Support) @ 148 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolter (x4); Missile Launcher (x2);
#Tank Hunters



Models in Army: 42


Total Army Cost: 1000
 
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#3 ·
gday,
this looks like a pretty good army on paper, i think youve done well. theres a unit that can deal with pretty much anything.

but i do have a few tips.

firstly, make them alpha legion (found in the book of chaos). this will make infiltrating so much cheaper, since you're not using daemons anyway, and you get another cheap troop choice.

next, give your aspiring champs daemonic strength. it does seem odd at first, but against super tough opponents (carnifexs, wraith lords etc) and high armoured veihcles, the difference between s8 and s9 is big, and its only 5 points!!!

next, id give your hq some kind of speed bonus. i find that a cheap leutenant can become a great character killer. equipt him as follws:

hq - leutenant - 127
Furious cahrge, Infiltrate (5 points for alpha legion), dark blade, strength, speed, bolt pistol, frag, spikey bits.

the idea behind this guy is to get to s8 on the charge, insta killing marines, and speed helps him do this. just b carefull. he cant assault anyone he feels like, and powerfists will kill him very quickly

spikey bits is optional, i love it for 10 points. also remember, if you really need to guve him the mark of undivided (tho i think is not nessasary) you cant give him 2 veteran skills.

the last thing id so is get rid of those auto cannons on the havocs for heavy bolters and ditch tank hunter, but on the other unit of havocs, upgrade to lascannons and keep tank hunter. try to infiltrate these units as well, and they'll go from having to set up first, to setting up last, thus always being (if mission permits) in perfect position.

well thats what i reckon anyway. good luck and toodle-oo. tim
 
#4 ·
Very nice army.

At 1000 points I wouldn't worry too much about tanks.

-I'd drop the missile launch havocs and add 2 more autocannons to the other and fill out the marine squads with the rest of the points.
 
#5 ·
thanks a lot!

timk1111:
change to Alpha Legion is good idea!
about the Hq, Can I use so many wargear points in a Chaos Lieutenant?

TauEmpireMaste:
I would join the Lieutenant in a close combat squad.


I´m thinking about add a predator with heavy bolter and autocannon but I don´t have the model yet.


Ps. Sorry for my porr english!!


thanks everybody!


Update list:

CSM: Alpha Legion Army

1 Chaos Lieutenant (HQ) @ 117 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1)
Daemonic Aura
Daemonic Strength
Dark Blade
Frag Grenades
#Infiltrate
#Furious Charge


7 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 169 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; CC Weapon (x7); Bolt Pistol (x7); Frag Grenades
#Infiltrate
1 Aspiring Champion
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Power Fist (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades
Daemonic Strength
#Infiltrate


7 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 162 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; CC Weapon (x7); Bolt Pistol (x7)
#Infiltrate
1 Aspiring Champion
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Power Fist (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1)
Daemonic Strength
Frag Grenades
#Infiltrate


8 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 148 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolter (x6); Plasma Gun (x2)
#Infiltrate

6 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 100 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolter (x5); Missile Launcher (x1)

6 Chaos Havocs (Heavy Support) @ 184 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolter (x4); Lascannon (x2);
#Tank Hunters
#Infiltrate

6 Chaos Havocs (Heavy Support) @ 120 Pts
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Bolter (x4); Heavy Bolter (x2)


Models in Army: 43
Total Army Cost: 1000
 
#7 ·
you do need to have a mark on your lord in order to get the vet skills, but other than that, this is a solid army to the teeth. only thing to watch out for like stated earlier are the heavy hitters in the armies and watch out for specialist armies(IE. SM with cheap HQ, 2 5 man tacs and then mass on elites and Dreads) but they shouldnt pose to much of a porblem. good luck on getting that first turn too.
 
#8 ·
an interesting note: chosen chaos marines can have a mark of chaos, and any number of veteran skills.

I would drop the chaos marks for average troops, and add in more veteran skills, therfore making a much more specialised army, all csm have 9 ld. and ACs have 10, so morale checks don't seem to be a problem to me.

otherwise great army list, and hail alpharius!
 
#9 · (Edited)
Uriel Plaguespew said:
an interesting note: chosen chaos marines can have a mark of chaos, and any number of veteran skills.

I would drop the chaos marks for average troops, and add in more veteran skills, therfore making a much more specialised army, all csm have 9 ld. and ACs have 10, so morale checks don't seem to be a problem to me.

otherwise great army list, and hail alpharius!
hum...Its sound good to me. I would drop the chaos mark and add furios charge to the assault squad.

thank you!

ps. if a squad have a dedicated transport (like a rhino) can I infiltrate this squad?




the updated list:

1 Chaos Lieutenant (HQ) @ 117 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1)
Daemonic Aura
Daemonic Strength
Dark Blade
Frag Grenades
#Infiltrate
#Furious Charge

7 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 178 Pts
CC Weapon (x7); Bolt Pistol (x7)
#Infiltrate
#Furious Charge
1 Aspiring Champion
Power Fist (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades
Daemonic Strength
#Infiltrate
#Furious Charge

7 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 162 Pts
CC Weapon (x7); Bolt Pistol (x7); Frag Grenades
#Infiltrate
1 Aspiring Champion
Power Fist (x1); Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades
Daemonic Strength
#Infiltrate

8 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 140 Pts
Bolter (x6); Plasma Gun (x2)
#Infiltrate

6 Chaos Space Marines (Troops) @ 94 Pts
Bolter (x5); Missile Launcher (x1)

6 Havocs (Heavy Support) @ 178 Pts
Bolter (x4); Lascannon (x2);
#Tank Hunters
#Infiltrate

6 Havocs (Heavy Support) @ 129 Pts
Bolter (x3); Heavy Bolter (x3)


Models in Army: 43
Total Army Cost: 998
 
#10 ·
Ardvark said:
you do need to have a mark on your lord in order to get the vet skills, but other than that, this is a solid army to the teeth. only thing to watch out for like stated earlier are the heavy hitters in the armies and watch out for specialist armies(IE. SM with cheap HQ, 2 5 man tacs and then mass on elites and Dreads) but they shouldnt pose to much of a porblem. good luck on getting that first turn too.
if a character/unit has a mark, they can ply have 1 vet skill. if NO mark at all, then they can any amount. its in the special frules section in the codex

also, lieutenants can hav upto 50 points of gifts, so try to fit in speed. take speed, strength, dark blade = 50 points. monster for just a tenant!!

cheers, tim
 
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