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Hi, ive played about 4 games of 40k now. and we're having a small tournament at the shop this weekend. i was wondering what people thought of my list. any criticism is appreciated. belive me, this whole 40k this is totally new to me (played fantasty for several years)
Chaos LT. D.speed, spiky bits, power weapon, infiltrate, pistol. 91pts
Squad 1 - CCW, pistol, infiltrate X 8 120pts
Squad 2 - Bolters, autocannon X5 80pts
Cultists X10 60pts
Furies X5 75pts.
the only restriction is we can only have 3 troop choices, one eliete, one fast attack, and one heavy.
Hey there Silvanest,
Welcome to the Alpha Legion . Here's some thoughts about your list:
HQ: Well put together. I know it's not good to pimp him out too much at 500points, but at S4, he's very lacklustre and the chances are even with 4 attacks (+rroll), he won't be able to wound much at all. I would stronly consider giving him EITHER D. Strength or furious charge.
ELITES: Perfect. Maybe a bit mean, but many people field a vehicle at 500 points with the thought that nothing will touch them. The obliterator will soon pee on their parade. I've only been failed by obliterators once, and that was due to silly deepstriking.
FAST ATTACK: Unfortunately if you check out the Alpha legion entry you'll see that we're not allowed daemonic beasts. So only B.letters, Horrors, Flamers, Daemonettes, P.Bearers. I know it's silly because Furies are so much more fluffy, but they're the rules. The furies have to go...
Ok, here's what i'd suggest:
Drop the assault squad to 7, get a melta gun, and definitely add an aspiring champion with a powerfist.
If possible up the fire support squad to 6, and replace the autocannon with a Missile launcher or Las cannon.
I like cultists, but i think at this level of game they may be holding you back a bit to use them to their full affect. I would consider dropping them.
With the points from the cultist and the furies, I would get a squad of havocs. 6 with 2x autocannons.
Any remaining points should be spent on infiltrate or tank hunters for the autocannons.
I know Alpha Legion's 'thing' is infiltrate, but be wary of just infiltrating 1 unit out on it's own. at 500 points it's critical that your army works together and support eachother.
500 point battles are incredibly difficult for the Chaos Player. I don't like them at all, because you get almost no chance to flex the might of Chaos. Additionally, the GW Force Organisation Chart rules are embarrasingly bad at 500pts. The people at the shop have been clever and tried to do something about this, but you'll still face Defilers, Dreads, Land Speeders etc etc. Hence the Autocannons and Obliterator.
thanks a ton karmoon. i tried following all of your advice, but ran into some points problems. but i think i got most of it. oh and about the furies... d'oh, didnt even check that, thanks.
Chaos LT - Infiltrate, spiky bits, power weapon, D. Strength, pistol -86pts
Squad 1 - CCW, infiltrate, one melta, asp champ /w powerfist X7 - 143pts
Squad 2 - Bolters, missile X5 -85pts
Havocs - Infiltrate, autocannon (2) X5 -115pts
Last edited by Silvanest; September 18th, 2006 at 18:59.
Hey there silvanest.
Ok, now your force can support itself and even if an unruly player brings along a carnifex or Defiler you have the means to take it down.
It's tempting to have certain units like your HQ or Obliterator go it alone and hold something, but it's always a risk. As you're a veteran Warhammer player, i won't lecture you on the risks, but i honestly think at this level it's really important for your units to support eachother.
Like i said, at 500 points it's a difficult match to play for Chaos. It's very much a game of paper scissor rock.
See how you go, and if you don't like any elements or more importantly they don't suit your style then change them and see
I hope that works for you - good luck.