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    cheesy?

    Hi, it is the two of my friend´s chaos lists ( looking at this lists I really dont know if he is my friend in fact!)


    What you think about this lists? is cheesy?

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    1000 Pts - CSM: Word Bearers Army
    Menon, Riders of Warpstorm Master (cost total: 211)
    - Independent Character Chaplain of the army
    - Mark of Chaos Undivided
    - Combi-Bolter (Chaos Marine Bike)
    - Dark Blade
    - Daemon Armour
    - Daemonic Aura
    - Daemonic Rune
    - Daemonic Visage
    - Frag Grenades
    - Furious Charge


    Painbringers x 8 bloodletters (cost: 208)


    Soulstealers x 8 bloodletters (cost: 208)


    Soggoth & the damned crows x 7 raptors + 1 champion (cost: 373)
    - CC Weapon (x7) + Bol Pistol (x4) + Meltagun (x3)
    - Infiltrate
    - Furious Charge

    -Soggoth (Champ)
    - Lightning Claws (pair)
    - Infiltrate
    - Furious Charge
    - Personal Icon
    - Spiky Bits
    Total Army Cost: 1000
    Notes:
    Models in Army: 25




    B list

    1 - HQ demon prince : 186
    demonic visage
    demonic speed
    demonic resilance
    demonic essence
    dread axe
    demonic aura
    demonic stature
    mark of chaos undivided
    furious charge
    teleport homer

    1 troop - 5 chaos marines (2plasma/ 3 bolters gun) : 90

    1 troop - 5 chaos marines (2plasma/ 3 bolters gun) : 90

    1 elite - 3 obliterators: 210

    1 elite - 3 obliterators: 210

    1 elite - 3 obliterators: 210

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    morgul, I'm going to ask you once and only once (nicely ) to please edit your post and delete all of the rules you posted. We know what they do - otherwise we wouldn't be commenting on your list. Just telling what each model has is enough, we don't need you to list the rules, as it's a breach of copyright and breaking LO forum rules. Please read the forum rules, while you're at it, which are linked to in my signature.

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    I took the liberty to remove some of the unneccesary, copyrighted material from your post for you. Just be mindful of it in the future, please.


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    Sorry man! really!! I dont know!





    but what you think about the lists?

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    What every happened to Beardy? Kids these days, don't even remember the old verbiage :cry:

    As for the list, I'm not going to comment on its cheddar level. It is what it is, and frankly posting a list titled "cheesy?" is basically just trolling for controversy.
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    I want to make my friend belive that the lists are cheesy.

    So I wanna your help here.

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    The first list, I'd feel confident taking out with a 750 point list.

    The second one is definitely power gaming with that many obliterator at such a small point level.

    Standard kiddy fair I guess. I hope he's proud of himself.
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    I hope he's proud of himself

    I guess I don't really see how the list warrants the tone that is implied by that.

    The first list is definitely not cheesy in any way, and is quite weak for what he's taken. In 1,000 pts, he has over half that amount invested in 8 models...Focus fire on the raptors, and then I'm not sure why you're having an issue with it.

    The second list?

    Well, sure it's got some cheesiness to it, he's over-loading the senses on a powerful model. But at the same time, you kill those 9 models and his army is toast - so what's the point?

    I think instead of making a post to try and prove that your friend is cheesy, perhaps you should be more focused on the simple tacts you'll need to defeat him. If every army was fair in this game, it would not be very interesting. Guess what happens to an Obliterator if wounded by a Lascannon or Plasmagun? They either make a 5+ or they pop.

    Every list has their own variation of a gun that can kill the Obliterators, so simply let your friend know that when he loads up on Oblits, you'll load up on those guns. If he doesn't like that, then you two can play a balanced army game.

    But singling something out for cheese seems silly and not very useful in the long run. The time you spend worrying about proving your point could have been spent figuring out your next strategy instead.

    In my opinion though - they are not strong 1,000 point armies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnoch Eclipse View Post
    I hope he's proud of himself

    I guess I don't really see how the list warrants the tone that is implied by that.
    I meant that the list is build on a gimmick. It's not particularly clever and it has no finesse. Perhaps I shouldn't be so sarcastic though...

    Guess what happens to an Obliterator if wounded by a Lascannon or Plasmagun? They either make a 5+ or they pop.
    pop as in instant kill? If so, las cannons yes, plasma guns no. But ap2 will screw over obliterators. Melta guns are also good to use for the popping. :yes:

    Eclipse has got an excellent point though.. I'm not sure what you'll be acheiving by having them called cheesy on this forum..
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