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    Tactical Avante-Gard <E!_Mance>'s Avatar
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    1,500pts Guard.

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    Joghoelu the Abomination
    Daemon Prince with Mark of Nurgle & Personal Icon.
    Nurgle's rot, Daemonic Essence, Mutation, Rune, Speed, Visage, & Venom.
    180pts

    Jahad Corpulent
    Nergal: Lt. with Manreaper, Terminator Armour, Strength, & Mutation.
    Namrat: Terminator Chosen AC with Plague sword, Nurgle's rot, Fire, Strength, & Power weapon.
    Nunn: Terminator Chosen with Power fist & Combi-bolter
    Beuu: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Reaper autocannon
    Adad: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Amon: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Irra: Terminator Chosen with Heavy Flamer & Power fist
    Mark of Nurgle, Deepstrike. 461pts

    Elites
    Chosen Retinue for Nergal

    Troops
    The Miasma
    AC with Plague sword, Strength, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts

    The Poison
    AC with Plague sword, Strength, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts

    The Filth
    AC with Powerfist, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 204pts

    Heavy Support
    The Plague
    AC with Powerfist, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    2 Plague Marines with Plasma guns
    2 Plague Marines with Meltaguns
    2 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 224pts

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    ok, here we go!

    Joghoelu the Abomination
    Daemon Prince with Mark of Nurgle & Personal Icon.
    Nurgle's rot, Daemonic Essence, Mutation, Rune, Speed, Visage, & Venom.
    180pts
    First off, essence is over rated. You would be better served getting him D. Aura. Also Venom is just.... ugh, get him a power weapon and BP.

    Jahad Corpulent
    Nergal:
    Lt. with Manreaper, Terminator Armour, Strength, & Mutation.
    Namrat: Terminator Chosen AC with Plague sword, Nurgle's rot, Fire, Strength, & Power weapon.
    Nunn: Terminator Chosen with Power fist & Combi-bolter
    Beuu: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Reaper autocannon
    Adad: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Amon: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Irra: Terminator Chosen with Heavy Flamer & Power fist
    Mark of Nurgle, Deepstrike. 461pts
    Ok, first off I would not be fielding this squad in a 1.5k army, it is almost 1/3 of your points and everything the enemy has is going tobe pointing at this juicy point sink. If you are determined to field this get rid of D. fire on the Lt and choose either Heavy flamers or reapers (REAPERS!) and stick two of them in their rather than having the mixed bag.

    Troops
    The Miasma
    AC with Plague sword, Strength, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts

    The Poison
    AC with Plague sword, Strength, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts

    The Filth
    AC with Powerfist, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 204pts
    Ok, I generally like these squads. I am a firm believer though in going all or none. Pick either 2 meltas or 2 plasmas, do not mix them.

    Heavy Support
    The Plague
    AC with Powerfist, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    2 Plague Marines with Plasma guns
    2 Plague Marines with Meltaguns
    2 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 224pts
    Get this squad infiltrate and switch the meltas to plasma.
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    Joghoelu the Abomination
    Daemon Prince with Mark of Nurgle & Personal Icon.
    Nurgle's rot, Daemonic Essence, Mutation, Rune, Speed, Visage, & Venom.
    180pts

    Jahad Corpulent
    Nergal: Lt. with Manreaper, Terminator Armour, Strength, & Mutation.
    Namrat: Terminator Chosen AC with Plague sword, Nurgle's rot, Fire, Strength, & Power weapon.
    Nunn: Terminator Chosen with Power fist & Combi-bolter
    Beuu: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Reaper autocannon
    Adad: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Amon: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Irra: Terminator Chosen with Heavy Flamer & Power fist
    Mark of Nurgle, Deepstrike. 461pts
    I have to agree with Ironangel. Way too many points in HQ here. The terminators are better served in a higher point game. If you must keep them in, then drop the DP.

    The DP itself is far to expensive for what he does. As is, he is mediocre at everything. The only thing venom allows you to do is go after MCs, but they will still get thier saves. In 1500, I would take your LT out of his chosen squad and field him as an IC. Then use the points saved elsewhere.

    Troops
    The Miasma
    AC with Plague sword, Strength, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts
    These guys need to have the same weapons in each squad. Same with your havocs. Plasma is better against heavy infantry, meltas against vehicles. Pick which you want and stick to it. I would suggest plasma in your plague sword squads, and meltas in your power fist squads. Possibly giving the power fist squads frags for charge denial. And give Nurgle's rot to every champ. It is cheap and if it kills 2 MEQs, it has paid for itself.

    With the saved points, you could add in 2 more full squads, and a few other goodies besides.
    Another squad will almost always benefit you more than a few upgrades to all squads. Remember: Troops before Toys.

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    I have to leave the house soon, so I'm only gonna make 1 comment other then "Looks lika a good list". On your DP, is Daemonic Rune really nescessary? He's T. 6, and I'm fairly certain there arn't any Str. 12 Weapons out there. There are alwys force weapons, but I don't think it's worth that many points when you can just avoid them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by <E!_Mance> View Post
    HQ
    Joghoelu the Abomination
    Daemon Prince with Mark of Nurgle & Personal Icon.
    Nurgle's rot, Daemonic Essence, Mutation, Rune, Speed, Visage, & Venom.
    180pts

    Jahad Corpulent
    Nergal: Lt. with Manreaper, Terminator Armour, Strength, & Mutation.
    Namrat: Terminator Chosen AC with Plague sword, Nurgle's rot, Fire, Strength, & Power weapon.
    Nunn: Terminator Chosen with Power fist & Combi-bolter
    Beuu: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Reaper autocannon
    Adad: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Amon: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Irra: Terminator Chosen with Heavy Flamer & Power fist
    Mark of Nurgle, Deepstrike. 461pts

    Elites
    Chosen Retinue for Nergal

    Troops
    The Miasma
    AC with Plague sword, Strength, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts

    The Poison
    AC with Plague sword, Strength, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts

    The Filth
    AC with Powerfist, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    Plague Marine with Plasma gun
    Plague Marine with Meltagun
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 204pts

    Heavy Support
    The Plague
    AC with Powerfist, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    2 Plague Marines with Plasma guns
    2 Plague Marines with Meltaguns
    2 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 224pts
    As far as your HQ goes, Id say go for a DP with the Manreaper, D. Stature, Aura, Frags, and Speed. Its cheap, and all of the sudden you have a T6 space marine killing machine. Not only that, he can handle entire flanks on his own.

    Im not a fan of two HQ's. Death Guard is an army where your troops can seriously win it for you. I would drop the termies and the lt. and go for more troops. At least one more unit of plague marines and maybe some plaguebearers?

    Troops: Basically what everyone else said. You might think of taking only a single plague sword. Unless you come up against 'nids, there probably wont be many multi-wound models on the board, so you would be better served with more powerfists. This also means you can save points by dropping D. Strength on your champions since you will cause Instant Death on most everything anyway. (And you cant pass up Nurgles Rot. Its cheap. Its fluffy. And it will annoy the hell out of whoever youre playing :yes: )

    Heavy: Havocs are good. Make all the weapons the same, though. And infiltrate them. See if you can take the points from dropping the Termies and throw in a Predator or a Defiler or a Dreadnought. (Personal note: I am a HUGE fan of dreadnoughts. I field two in my tournament army, and they generally save my ass. Haha, just thought I should let you know).

    Anywho, get back to us with a new list.

    Take care.

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    I think i have to agree with the others, the chosen squad with the lieutenant is pretty darn pricy. Replacing them with two marine squads with infiltrate, BP/CCW, and an aspiring champ with a power fist will probably have a lot more likelihood of returning their points and will help support your other squads a little better.


    On your DP, is Daemonic Rune really nescessary? He's T. 6, and I'm fairly certain there arn't any Str. 12 Weapons out there. There are alwys force weapons, but I don't think it's worth that many points when you can just avoid them.
    Ummm, you can still be instatn killed with strength ten weapons. Daemonic stature is the only upgrade that changes what strength you can be instant killed by. Resilience doesnt effect it at all as you can see on it's rules on page 17 of the chaos codex. Also, a rune will not help against force weapons. It clearly states that it only helps against instant kill due to wounds caused by a weapon that is at least strength double toughness. There are fairly few weapons that will be able to take out your prince with instant kill, (a couple MC's, a demolisher cannon, a railgun, and that should be about it...), so taking the rune off might not be a bad way to save points, but make sure you give him an invulnerable save if you do, just in case.
    Last edited by gamerfreak; April 18th, 2007 at 21:31.

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    Melkiah the Abomination
    Daemon Prince with Mark of Nurgle & Personal Icon.
    Nurgle's rot, Daemonic Essence, Mutation, Rune, Speed, Visage, & Venom.
    180pts
    This means he can't be instantly killed by weapon strength. I KNOW That doesn't save against Force weapons, but that's what KHORNE has! I am NURGLE.

    Updated list of gifts: Visage, Venom, Furious Assault, Rune, Speed, Mutation, Stature, Nurgle's Rot, & Mark of Nurgle.
    Same price.

    Jahad Corpulent
    Nergal: Lt. with Manreaper, Terminator Armour, Nurgle's Rot, Strength, & Mutation.
    Namrat: Terminator Chosen AC with Plague sword, Strength, & Power weapon.
    Nunn: Terminator Chosen with Power fist & Combi-bolter
    Beuu: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Reaper autocannon
    Adad: Terminator Chosen with Power fist & Combi-bolter
    Amon: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Combi-bolter
    Irra: Terminator Chosen with Power weapon & Reaper Autocannon
    Mark of Nurgle, Deepstrike. 461pts

    Elites
    Chosen Retinue for Nergal

    Troops
    The Miasma
    AC with Plague sword, Nurgle's rot, Strength, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    2 Plague Marines with Plasma guns
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 214pts

    The Poison
    AC with Power fist, Nurgle's Rot, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    2 Plague Marines with Meltaguns
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts

    The Filth
    AC with Power fist, Nurgle's Rot, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    2 Plague Marines with Meltaguns
    4 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 209pts

    Heavy Support
    The Plague
    AC with Powerfist, Mutation, Bolter, & Teleport Homer.
    4 Plague Marines with Plasma guns
    2 Plague Marines with Bolters & CCWs
    Infiltrate. 224pts
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    Better but I have to ask again, why venom on the lord? Also the previous poster was trying to tell you that you do not need daemonic rune due to the fact that only str 10 weapons can insta kill you, so it's only even worth taking if you are facing tau. Also Essence is less useful over all than Aura. I would rather get to save against power weapons and low AP weapons than have one extra wound.
    Last edited by Ironangel256; April 19th, 2007 at 11:27.
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    I tend to prefer my DP this way...

    MON,Nurgles Rot, Dspeed,Manreaper,Demonic Aura,Demonic Strength and give him Furious charge....

    Just something about +1 init and a strenght 6 on the manreaper....

    nice for monstrous creatures too.........

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    Oops forgot demonic visage and he is only 160 points....

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