1500- Throne of Skulls

[Vulcan]

In April I am going to the Throne of Skulls which will be my first tournament, ever, for this my plan was to take Space Wolves buut Daemons of Chaos are tempting my that and someone I know said I should go for it. Hence this is my fist list idea, by the way my actually wins/losses with Daemons so far is 0-6.

HQ 300
Lord of change
Master of sorcery
We are Legion

Troops 562
10 Bloodletters 160
5 Pink Horrors- Bolt of Tzeentch 95
5 Pink Horrors- Bolt of Tzeentch 95
5 Pink Horrors- Bolt of Tzeentch 95
6 Pink Horrors- Bolt of Tzeentch-Changling 117

Elites 120
3 Bloodcrushers

Heavy Support 510
Daemon Prince-Iron hide-Mark of Tzeentch=Bolt of Tzeentch 170
Daemon Prince-Iron hide-Mark of Tzeentch=Bolt of Tzeentch 170
Daemon Prince-Iron hide-Mark of Tzeentch=Bolt of Tzeentch 170

Total 1492


Thanks in advance and any comments and the like are welcome.

[slann-o-engine-eo]

Welcome to the Planes of Change and Chaos.

The List Looks Really bad ass..I love the Lords of Change.

However if your going to a tournament and you want to win some Games ill give you some deeper advice on your list that hopefully helps you reverse your win loss ratio.

I would Ditch the Lord of Change. for nearly his Price you can buy three Tzeentch Heralds on Chariots and have 3 times the firepower...on paper the Lord of change looks great but he is not able to compete in combat very well and thus he is used as a monstrous gun platform...if he is only used for guns then half of his points are going to waste...that is why the Tzeentch Heralds are more price efficient.

The BloodCrushers need some Loving. I play Mono Khorne on a regular basis and three of them will only last a turn be for they POOF. I suggest taking the Bloodletters and buying 2 more Crushers and full command, use the other 40 points to upgrade the lord of change into the three tzeentch heralds. This gives you a psuedo deathstar supported buy lots of Guns from the Tzeentch Heralds if you are able to get them and the Pink Horrors.

I would then Take off the Iron hides from your Tzeentch Princes. Most of the things that will be pointing at him have a high Ap and will remove it and also you already have a 4+.....basically if someone wants to kill the prince the difference between the 4+ and 3+ wont matter...but if you take off the iron hide you can buy another unit that can balance that. with the 90 points saved from the iron hides I would buy a unit of 6 Screamers with might. A lot of people preach against them but personally I love them. They are great at removing a dreadnaught or landraider and contesting objectives at the end of the game.

I dont mean to offend you buy just saying blank statements of change this and that....but I know the difference between a lot of choices in our codex and their ability to make their points back. Everything that I have changed or added will help you balance the games between some of the harsher Codex's that exist right now. Good Luck with your Tournament. Make all of us Deamonic Generals Jealous that we cannot be there and take Skullz for OurSelves

[Vulcan]

thanks for the advice, dont suppose you know how to make a tzeentch hereld on chariout do you? I really suck when it comes to modeling and the only reason that the lord of change is used is becasue there is a model for him

[slann-o-engine-eo]

Hey man its all good. If you have the stuff and plan on bringing the models you got Im all for that.

if you are interested though I suggest you buy a Box of Tomb King Chariots. Then Buy a Box of screamers, and a box of Flamers. Convert the Flamers into Heralds they make great Heralds. Most people dont care or know about the amount of screamers in front of the chariots, there is suppoed to be two of them but one is good for pretty much everywhere you should play. And of course you use the chariots that are from the Tomb Kings box.

[Vulcan]

actually sounds kinda easy, i have got bits of chain left of over from the bloodcrushers but the big question is do the chariots need to have the wheels on or a flying stick instead and whats the base size involved?

[slann-o-engine-eo]

The Conversion I told you of is one of many.

Im oldschool and ive been using the same deamonic chariots since they created chariots for the storms of chaos in fantasy so of course I made sure mine was pretty clear on what it was.

but pretty much as long as it looks like a chariot or a rideable something, then you can model it however you want. Wether it be flying or riding or floating or w/e

Good Luck though and Happy Hunting

[Vulcan]

so, the list has finally been finished, i just need to practice with not doing really dum stuff, the new list is this: (not got the book so cant post points cost)

Lord of change
The blue scribes

3 bloodcrushers, instrument
3 bloodcrushers, instrument

5 pink horrors, bolt of tzeentch
5 pink horrors, bolt of tzeentch
5 pink horrors, bolt of tzeentch
5 pink horrors, bolt of tzeentch, the changling

4 scramers of tzeentch

Daemon prince, bolt of tzeentch
Daemon prince, bolt of tzeentch
Daemon prince, bolt of tzeentch

so far this list has manged to beat some guard shooty, get mauled by blood angel bike and dreadnought list, fight to a standstill agaisnt drop pod vanilla marines and swat some dark eldar.

[slann-o-engine-eo]

What was the Dark Eldar Playing? I was just wondering because I find that Dark eldar are my Toughest match up right now.

All those venoms and Poison Shots.......and not to mention every dark eldar player plays reserves against my reserves so they are almost always a turn behind me and get to pop out and destroy everything I have. Flicker Fields.....that way my very weak shooting phase now has a 30% chance to not do anything....I hate Dark Eldar

[Vulcan]

not a lot of vehicles just a lot of on foot dark eldar, that and i got a little bit lucky with saves, turns out the changlings ability is really good when dark eldar fail it.