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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Dracus View Post
    I like using the SGD. He is cheap and with T6 W4 Sv4++ he is harder to kill then most Tyranid MCs for a fraction of the price. And he is still really mean is combat. I have had games where he has won me the game single-handedly by taking out Mephy, a Libby Dread and a Furioso by himself. People underestimate them, play that to your advantage. The down side is having to sac a Asp. Champ or other suitable model.
    Another downside is the fact that you have a 50% chance of him showing up on your 2nd turn. As he moves only 6", but can assault on the turn he is summoned, you want to be very close to the enemy (meaning Rhino-rush or infiltrating Chosen with a champ). The downside of this, of course, being that if he doesn't turn up, you have a lot of troops within range of enemy guns...

    Tactics aside, getting a Greater Daemon on the table is simply awesome. Your enemy must divert a lot of his attention to this new threat, because when ignored, WILL wreak havoc on his troops. I had quite some fun with running a Daemon Prince as HQ and two Greater Daemons once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackadder View Post
    Ha Do you think it's worth summoning a greater demon at all then any more?
    I guess the answer would be sometimes. Considering how he also costs you an aspiring champion, his real price will be around ~115-140p, but with his statline he is quite nasty once he is close enough to do something useful.

    On the other hand, I find that the Generic Greater Daemon has an amazing talent for always showing up either too early, or too late. If we had any way to manipulate our summoning reserve rolls a little similar to how other armies can manipulate their reserve rolls, I think he'd be a more viable option. I don't field one myself for this very reason. He is worth his cost, but the way he always seems to screw up his timing - appearing on turn 2, far away from everything he wants to assault and terribly susceptible to a little bit of dakka. No grenades either. :/

    I don't field him, since he can't be Marked by Khorne, but he can some some pretty amazing times at times.
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    Well from my point of view they are a controversial type. While they are 100% manic berserkers whose thirst for blood makes them ignore any kind of threat , their combat expertise and milenia spanning experience in the battlefield helps them not only to survive but to even achieve their goal. For me , a khorne warrior is like a mad bull charging. There is not a plan , not any deeper scheme. Its just ten tons of muscle and horn charging at you at full speed. This is all it needs to win and if you are not a bull yourself you propably dead. So , bestial as they are , their cunning does not come from the labour of mind but from their battle-forged insticts.

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    Nice necroo there, but since the dead are now awake I might continue.

    I have a Khornate berzerker army with a havoc squad and a few tactical bolter-zerkers. They look amazing toting heavy bolters around with their bunny-eared helmets.
    The army is nearly damned unplayable as it is, with a 8-man strong berzerker-bike unit, havocs with the mark of khorne in rhinos and a Land Raider with 8 lightning clawed terminator champs with the mark of khorne. But it's fun and fluffy to play and everyone loves it, even when it get's smashed. And every time I lift a dude off the table i chant "Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows".

    But back at the topic of this thread:
    The numerous World Eater warbands and armies are made up of berzerkers who are thousands of years old. But they do recruit new members, and the fluff clearly states that the techno chirurgions (spelling please, I'm swedish) who perform the lobotomy are highly sought after and extremely rare outside the daemon worlds that the World Eaters controll, and Abbaddon have almost all of them anyway.
    So all Berzerkers are not millenia old, but some of them are. Some Khornate Lords are young and some very old 'Zerkers are content with just killing stuff.
    Old imagery also shows Khornate marines using bolters, so there's room in the fluff for that too.

    But they are not mindless!
    Sure, they might lose their head (pun intended) in the heat of battle , but they are masters of war and use efficient strategies and tactics. If they didn't there would be no World Eaters.

    Also bear in mind that when playing games a casualty doesn't necessarily have to mean the guy is dead, he's just so shellshocked, knocked out, traumatized or mutilated that he can't possibly continue - but will get picked up by his pals after the scrap and get puzzled together. That's how I picture the World Eaters survival throughout the millenia. Even if you defeat them and pummel them into the ground - they will still get back because they're so hard. Just look at Kharn at the walls of the Imperial Palace.
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    Read 'Legion of the Damned' if you want some good Khornate characters that aren't simply 'BURN MAIM KILL!' It shows both the blood-crazy insanity you'd expect, mixed with a healthy dose of religious fervour and some actual insight into the Khorne commander's mind. Sure, he's not very much tactical flexible, but it works, and why fix what ain't broke.

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    Yeah i would say that World Eaters will use ranged weapons, its primarily the Berserkers that are CC orientated

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    Newer fluff states that every member of the World Eaters is a Berzerker. I fail, however, to see how this might be the case. There have to be initiates (but they might not be counted to be members of the World Eaters). These initiates who have not yet recieved their lobotomy might take up other tasks, such as giving supporting fire in the guise as havocs or acting as tactical marines. As they are new to the Legion they might have to prove their worth in combat before becoming the frothing close combat monsters that they strives to be.
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