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My single biggest gripe with those rumors is the loss of Dreadnoughts. I REALLY hope this is false, Chaos have always had them, in game and lore, so removing them would be complete garbage. Even if they were still useless in game, keep them in the dex, just so we can have them in friendly games for s**ts and giggles.
I do like the idea of cultist troops/zombies for Typhus though...
Typhus making zombies would make me pretty happy, but I don't like the rumors because.... I'd probably be the only one that would like the book.
Last edited by Sykodmon; May 1st, 2012 at 12:41.
Something that DAMO.R said-
I also wondered why GW didn't allow daemons to take icons in the 4th edition codex. It just seems like it would have been intuitive. It would have had little impact on the game in total, but it would have allowed a little more diversity in the codex and would have made a lot of players happy.
yes. i think with CL they should:
1. keep them as lesser Daemons but allow for different marks, thus keeping it seperate from the daemons codex
2. Bring back Cultists and allow Typhus to take them as zombies (could possibly mean plastic Cultist/Zombie kit :p )
3. Have the book clearly split into the seperate legions to avoid confusion
4. Have at least 2 special characters for the 5 main legions and 1 each for any lesser legions.
5. Have more Daemon engines and make Chaos Dreds better
6. Make sure the book is equal to the SM codex in size or even bigger would be better
7. Keep Matt Ward away from it!!!
8. Make sure the initial release is accompanied by plastic kits for all the basic troop options (like i have said before as things are at the moment i wont be surprised if all the units like Noise Marines, Berserkers, Plague marines and Thousand sons are condensed into 5 man either/or kits)
Actually they could do this with termies aswell, keep the current kit as generic chaos termies for Black legion and others like Word bearers and Iron Warriors and then have a seperate termie kit with various legion specific options like Sonic blasters, Dual Chainaxes, Rubrik upgrades and toxic heavy Flamers or something.
GW should pay me for thinking up these things!
None of that seems to mesh with any of the other rumours we've been hearing. Traitor Guard and Cultists are simply far too similar to be both included in the Legions book, and Traitor Guard cannot be properly compatible fluff-wise with the Traitor Legions. Cultists can, because there are previous examples: zombies for Death Guard, meatshields for Word Bearers, specialist spies for Alpha Legion, cannon fodder for Iron Warriors, etc etc. No where can I think of defected Guardsmen serving as members or even servants of Legions, they tend to stick to their own formations, maybe with a handful of Astartes as leaders and enforcers.
Dreadnoughts have to stay in, along with daemons. Both of those are iconic Chaos units, and to remove them would not only invalidate model lines (Dreads) but also remove the daemonic flavour of the Chaos Legions.
A mechanical Chaos Dragon? Yeah, right, I'll believe it only when I see it on shelves. That's far too Fantasy Battle than 40k, especially since Chaos isn't known for making animalistic vehicles. I honestly can't think of a single Chaos vehicle that is based on an animal.
The Cult Troops are some of the most popular models GW has, I highly doubt they will become unlockable only with Special Characters; maybe only mark Lords/Princes/Sorcerers will unlock them, but only specific models? Yeah, I don't think so. Yes, GW did that with Inquistorial forces in Grey Knights, but A: that was Matt Ward, who I think has learned his lesson, as evidenced by the Necron codex lacking that feature, and B: that would make regular Lord obsolete, with absolutely no redeeming value, and finally C: think of all the marked Lord models there are, and I doubt that GW will simply dump those models out the window.
In a similar vein, no new Special Characters? EVERY single new codex has had new special characters, even the Sisters of Battle White Dwarf codex has new characters! To think that Chaos won't have new ones is simply ridiculous, especially since this is supposed to be Chaos Legions, with special rules and units put in specifically for specific Legions!
To sum up, I call shenanigans. These rumours are trolling, absurdly negative predictions, and/or depressing and biased thoughts about the future of the Chaos line. It flies in the face of not only every single rumour, but suggests that GW is trying to scale back on Chaos, when most rumours are saying that 6th edition will be the edition where Chaos becomes the uber-bad guy and start running wild across the galaxy, like the Tyranids were for 5th (seriously, how many times are they mentioned in other codexes? Tyranids, though not imposing as they could be on the tabletop, are the big bads fluff-wise for this edition). While some people say that 4th edition codex was a step backwards for Chaos, it wasn't, it was simply shifting the focus from Legions to renegades. Now, the very name of the book says that the focus is shifting back to Legions, so I call these 'rumours' to be total crap.