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JJY · October 5th, 2005, 22:07

i was just wandering.. can space marines with mark of chaos( berserkers, noise marines, plague marines...) in undivided army with Fabius Bile can be enhanced by his "treatment" ?

MouseC112 · October 5th, 2005, 22:19

Not 100% sure, but i believe no. On the edition of army builder i have you cannot apply teh Enhanced warrior ability to a marked unit... course the Enhanced ability is set up like a mark in army builder. I believe Fabius can only be used in undivided armies also, but in the army book i didn't come across anything in particular stopping you from doing it. I'd check the FAQ and see though

The_Giant_Mantis · October 5th, 2005, 23:04

The answer is in the Chaos Codex, printed under Fabius' 'Enhanced Warriors' rule in his profile.

JJY · October 5th, 2005, 23:22

all they said was: .."any number of chaos space marince squad can be enhanced by Bile's treatment...". so im not sure whether marines with mark of gods in undivided army can be enhanced....:wacko:

Zeus · October 6th, 2005, 00:12

You'll notice a little lower down it says "for +3 points per model, any number of chaos space marine squads (not bikers,raptors or any other unit)without a mark can be enhanced by Biles treatment

Caluin · October 6th, 2005, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJY

all they said was: .."any number of chaos space marince squad can be enhanced by Bile's treatment...". so im not sure whether marines with mark of gods in undivided army can be enhanced....:wacko:

When you read a sentence, you have to make sure you read all the words in that sentence. The very line you quote has the answer to your question. You just seemed to have glossed right over it.

JJY · October 6th, 2005, 01:45

so u guys saying it specificaly stated that marines without mark can be enhanced???. that is weird. Because really, in my codex, it only says chaos space marines can be enhanced with 3+ each model. i read it MANY AND MANY times and i still don't get it. lol maybe its only me whos having trouble with this..

anyway, can someone plz answer my question: those Chaos Space Marines includes berserkers, noisemarines..etc?

Caluin · October 6th, 2005, 02:03

What edition of Codex do you have? Do me a favor, and tell me what page of the Chaos Codex has the rules for Fabius on it. I just have a hunch.

As to answer your question, only basic CSM squads with no mark at all may take the Enhanced Warriors upgrade.

JJY · October 6th, 2005, 02:20

oh thats y.

i guess my book is bit older, because i found out obliterators' toughness arn't 5(4) but 4.

anyways its on pg.39.

darn... if that is right, i need to change my fabius bile army list..

MouseC112 · October 6th, 2005, 23:09

After reading that "any chaos space marine squad..." i would assume no, main reason is that technically a CSM with the mark of khorne is a Khorne Bezerker, make of nurgle...plague marine. Thus i would assume, just my guess, means no. They can be mark of undivided, but i'd assume that's it.

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JJY Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 54	Queston on Fabius Bile's "treatment" <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outgoing/http_d1_openx_org_ck_php_n_a83f474f_amp_cb_46587945173');" rel='nofollow' href='http://d1.openx.org/ck.php?n=a83f474f&cb=46587945173' target='_blank'><img src='http://d1.openx.org/avw.php?zoneid=22572&cb=46587945173&n=a83f474f' border='0' alt='' /></a> i was just wandering.. can space marines with mark of chaos( berserkers, noise marines, plague marines...) in undivided army with Fabius Bile can be enhanced by his "treatment" ?

October 5th, 2005, 22:19	#2 (permalink)
MouseC112 Son of LO Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 85	Not 100% sure, but i believe no. On the edition of army builder i have you cannot apply teh Enhanced warrior ability to a marked unit... course the Enhanced ability is set up like a mark in army builder. I believe Fabius can only be used in undivided armies also, but in the army book i didn't come across anything in particular stopping you from doing it. I'd check the FAQ and see though __________________ 40K-Beakies(9-14-4),Guard(4-7-2),Orks(34-12-11). FANTASY-Dwarves(15-6-7),Beasts (14-14-1), Skaven (17-17-10) DoC (6-1-2). CYGNAR (28-15-1)

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JJY Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 54	Well... all they said was: .."any number of chaos space marince squad can be enhanced by Bile's treatment...". so im not sure whether marines with mark of gods in undivided army can be enhanced....:wacko:

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Zeus Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Perth,WA Age: 18 Posts: 418 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 52	You'll notice a little lower down it says "for +3 points per model, any number of chaos space marine squads (not bikers,raptors or any other unit)without a mark can be enhanced by Biles treatment __________________ Fear The Wrath Of The ANZAC Clan! All Bow For The Anime Clan! When did I realise I was God? Well one day I was praying and I realised... I was talking to myself! Primarch Of The Iron Clan

October 6th, 2005, 01:45	#7 (permalink)
JJY Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 54	What?! so u guys saying it specificaly stated that marines without mark can be enhanced???. that is weird. Because really, in my codex, it only says chaos space marines can be enhanced with 3+ each model. i read it MANY AND MANY times and i still don't get it. lol maybe its only me whos having trouble with this.. anyway, can someone plz answer my question: those Chaos Space Marines includes berserkers, noisemarines..etc?

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The_Giant_Mantis Son of LO Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London Age: 25 Posts: 4,089 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 99	The answer is in the Chaos Codex, printed under Fabius' 'Enhanced Warriors' rule in his profile.

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Caluin Now with STFU flames! Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 29 Posts: 5,933 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 118 Total Awards: 1	What edition of Codex do you have? Do me a favor, and tell me what page of the Chaos Codex has the rules for Fabius on it. I just have a hunch. As to answer your question, only basic CSM squads with no mark at all may take the Enhanced Warriors upgrade. __________________

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JJY Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 54	oh i see.. oh thats y. i guess my book is bit older, because i found out obliterators' toughness arn't 5(4) but 4. anyways its on pg.39. darn... if that is right, i need to change my fabius bile army list..

October 6th, 2005, 23:09	#10 (permalink)
MouseC112 Son of LO Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 85	After reading that "any chaos space marine squad..." i would assume no, main reason is that technically a CSM with the mark of khorne is a Khorne Bezerker, make of nurgle...plague marine. Thus i would assume, just my guess, means no. They can be mark of undivided, but i'd assume that's it. __________________ 40K-Beakies(9-14-4),Guard(4-7-2),Orks(34-12-11). FANTASY-Dwarves(15-6-7),Beasts (14-14-1), Skaven (17-17-10) DoC (6-1-2). CYGNAR (28-15-1)

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