Fluff Masters Clan

[LordLink]

My idea behind killing off a chapter master is that yes he is incredibly tough to kill off. Especially when hes in termy armour surrounded by a termy command squad. The idea though is that hes stranded on a LatD ship (a damn big one as it contains both the legions lieutenants).

Now when the Space Wolves boarded a LatD ship it took the entire company to bring it down and they lost a lot of people. This ship is a lot bigger so the chapter master and his command get swarmed under by mutants (not to mention the elites).

Before this occurs I also have it so that a callidus assassain has mauled sorcerer Haven and after a long duel with Lt. Vein he is beaten and flees off the ship. I need a med room for this scene and its hard to describe it.

I'll post the novel when I've finished for you all to pick over. Its only 6 pages long at the moment.


A lot of people don't like it but I have made Kal Malignan quite a bit stronger then he probably should be. Hes about a 400 point daemon prince fluffwise. No chance for the inquisitor lord then (maybe I'll have to put him up against a grand master of Grey Knights).
I was thinking that Kal Malignan calls (or prays whatever) to chaos undivided to revive the elites when they die.

[Grephaun]

Well, from what you’ve described above, I don’t currently find your story all that unfluffy – I just find it a bit odd that a Chapter Master of the Ultramarines should’ve been killed off without anyone hearing about it in the canon fluff, but it’s not at all impossible. I’d probably choose a somewhat lesser-known Chapter than the Ultramarines, perhaps one of their Second Founding Successors, if I were to write a story set in the 40k universe; the lesser known the Chapter, the more freedom do you have in making up fluff for it without running into troubles with the official canon, after all.

As for your Daemon Prince, I don’t think he’s too strong; when the Daemon Primarch Angron was banished it took an entire company of Terminator Grey Knights and at least one company of Space Wolves to do so, and in the novel ‘Grey Knights’ it also takes an entire company to banish a Greater Daemon of Tzeentch – a Daemon Prince is not quite as powerful as either a Daemon Primarch or a Greater Daemon, but it is powerful in its own right, and it’d definitely be a tough job for even a Grey Knight Grand Master.

As for reviving dead Marines, I’m not sure it can be done that easily, especially in the heat of battle where one can imagine that the Daemon Prince needs his powers for himself – perhaps you can have a cabal of Chaos Sorcerers around the back which revives dead Marines, or perhaps just imbues their dead bodies with raw warp energy and turns them into horrible zombie-like creatures that go at your protagonists again and again, or gets the dead daemon-possessed and turns them into a kind of undead daemon-hosts? Plenty of opportunities for reanimation without involving your Daemon Prince, unless it’s crucial for your plot that it’s him doing the hard work, in which case I suppose that could also be fluffily explained with a bit of brain-storming – do let us know.

And if you want a beta reader on your story, just let me know; while my grasp of the English language is perhaps not perfect, being a foreign speaker as I am, I can at least have a look at the fluff included.




And on an entirely different note, allow me a moment to gloat: today I got my hands on a copy of ‘Galaxy in Flames’ by Ben Counter, the final book in the first trilogy on the Horus Heresy, and oh, it’s excellent! I’m so torn between visiting LO to sate my forum addiction after the long involuntary abstinence and at the same time also craving ‘Galaxy in Flames’! I fear I shan’t get any sleep at all tonight. I can't say I'm at all sorry about that, though. ^_^

~Greph, gleeful.

[nexus-star]

Oooh if the was just a bit more story about the battle between the Grey Knight Company Vs. Daemon Primarch Angron, i mean that "Prince" had an bodyguard of 6 Bloodthirsters when im not mistaking.
That would be an Epic battle in at least the scale Emperor Vs. Horus:ninja:

But so far your fluff is quite good but i also think you are better off with an second founding chapter at least.

Ohh and Callidus assassins are definitly(spelling?) cool, i don´t know if you have read the novel Inquisitor War but there was an Callidus assassin and there is some good stuff for you to work with.

[LordLink]

The only info on the Callidus assassain I've got is whats in the daemonhunter codex.

No matter how strong a marine company is its only as good as the space ship its in. That space ship got mauled by a massive daemon summoned from the eye of terror (close proximity lured it out) and the company's terminators teleported out and onto the chaos ship (their only chance of escape).

Ok no more ultramarines.

Kal Malignan is not reviving them in the heat of battle. Hes inside his own fortress on his daemon world in the eye of terror with all his equipment around him with several days and unlimited servants at his disposal.

I'm hoping to at least have a beta copy by the end of the Australian school holidays (about 4 weeks).

[Helbrecht]

This is for our Warhammer Fluff masters/mistresses is there any more information regarding Abhorash, the father of all blood dragons besides the armybook?

[nexus-star]

not that i know

Need more Fluff.....:cry: *search*

Edit: I have not found a bit of fluff on the net about Abhorash and no refferences to books and things like that.

[Da Mighty Camel]

I assume that you’re referring to the C’Tan Phase Sword, in which case the answer is no. A C’Tan Phase Sword is a blade made of Living Metal, the same substance that the C’Tan’s bodies are made from, and it’s incapable of going ‘ethereal’, an ability that usually involves the warp in some way.

Callidus Assassins use blades of Living Metal because it’s the most powerful known alloy in the galaxy and can cut through anything, which is why game-wise no saves are allowed against a C’tan Phase Sword, not even Invulnerable Saves.

Greph, I belive you are wrong in this matter.
The Necrons have ways to make their warriors 'phase out' of existance and reapear on other places (see: Wraiths). The C'tan Phase Swords utilise this technology to 'phase out' from our plane and matrialise again inside the victims armour, bypassing all protection and more than often killing the target.

[Adrian MalSeraph]

Small question...

Would it be a fluff "no-no" if a Space Marine Chapter were to recruit from Cadia?

To me, it would be ideal, the highly militarised society is perfect for about the age when Space Marines recruit people. Thoughts?

[gingerninja]

Although not an expert in this fluff, I will give it a go.

I would suggest that it is unlikely that a Space Marine chapter would recruit from a planet that close to the Eye of Terror, as the percentages of people who have been tainted must be higher. Although the military doctrine into the Whiteshields from a young age would be useful I suppose.

In short, I would wait for a response from someone better than me. :ninja:

[Xerxes]

Would it be a fluff "no-no" if a Space Marine Chapter were to recruit from Cadia?

I don't think so, but I would personally be against it. This is why.


Space Marines don't operate as part of a huge organisation requiring lots of chains of command and filtering and so on. They, because of their small numbers, need to be individually resilient, reliant and so on. They need to be able to interpret orders to their situation to ensure their own survival to a larger extent than your standard soldier.

Indeed, that's the difference. Space marines are taken mostly from warrior cultures, where individual strength, honour and so on is prized above all else. Soldier "cultures" have more of a respect to authority and working as part of a team as their focus. Less on the individual in other words. So I don't see soldiers making good space marines. I see warriors making good space marines. Which is why I don't think they'd be recruiting from Cadia.