[1500] Upcoming Tournament GKs

[ikbuh]

Ah, didn't realize the GM was in there. Remember, that GM NFW is an actual force weapon that laughs at Eternal Warriors =P

I was thinking 2 justicars, which would be 8 S6 PW attacks if you wrongly added the +1 to each for the charge. Like, two sqauds from two LRs or something.

[Emp.]

Originally Posted by ikbuh

I was thinking 2 justicars, which would be 8 S6 PW attacks if you wrongly added the +1 to each for the charge. Like, two sqauds from two LRs or something.

Na, unless the situation desperately requires it, those two won't be joining up. Especially not on the same squad because that's overkill with 4 incinerators and all the storm bolter shots.

[ikbuh]

I run footslogging Sisters of Battle. 28 bolter shots that can be AP 1 is never overkill o.O

Well.. maaaaybe a little once you include the melta and heavy flamer.

[Emp.]

Just to let you know; ran

GM
inc. storm shield, psychic hood

5x GKs
2x incinerators, justicar, frag

5x GKs
2x incinerators, justicar, frag

8x GKs
Justicar, meltabomb, frag

6x GKs
Justicar, meltabomb, frag, 2 psycannons

LR
smoke, extra armor, searchlight

LR
smoke, extra armor, searchlight

total: 1499

~ Went 2-1, lost to a broken Daemon list on dawn of war (2 obj's) so he hit me combat turn 2 with a unit of bloodcrushers with a special character to reroll saves. I was 1" away from getting the draw, but alas, missed it and lose 1 objective contested to his 1 objective claimed. Than beat a triple LR Khorne list (4 obj's) and a Salamanders list (annhilation). Overall came out 4th place, 2 points behind 3rd place. Scored top scores in list Comp. and sportsmanship which helped balance out the one loss. Overall it went ok, next tourney up in 2 weeks going upto 1750 points.

[PrinceChimera]

Originally Posted by Emp.

~ Went 2-1, lost to a broken Daemon list on dawn of war (2 obj's) so he hit me combat turn 2 with a unit of bloodcrushers with a special character to reroll saves.

I lol'd.
You lost to FateCrusher combo,it's a pretty nasty army to face.

[jy2]

Nice battle. Very well rounded list you have. Bravo.

Daemons are a very good army, even against our daemonhunters and without the Sustained Attack rules. Without an inquisitor and mystics, you're actually at a disadvantage against them IMO. Having said that, you actually had a good chance against Fateweaver's daemons because your psycannons wound him on 3's and he gets no saves against them (well...maybe cover). And you do realize that if his Bloodcrushers charge your knights, your knights attack first, right?

Chaos LR's are no match against DH LR's, even with Daemonic Possession, and a Salamanders army can be just devastating if done right (on drop pods) or horrible if not. Overall, congrats on a job well done.

[Emp.]

Originally Posted by jy2

Having said that, you actually had a good chance against Fateweaver's daemons because your psycannons wound him on 3's and he gets no saves against them (well...maybe cover). And you do realize that if his Bloodcrushers charge your knights, your knights attack first, right?

Yes. for the one turn I had to shoot they went into that but it was behind his bloodthirster model so he got a 4+ cover and only wounding twice he makes both. Knights went first and dropped 1-1/2 with his re-rollable saves, than got wiped by the sheer amount of power weapons. In the end I missed the draw by less than an inch but it's whatever.

[daisho]

I don't see why it is so bad to charge with GKs. Yes, they don't get their extra attack from True Grit, but they still get their +1 attack from charging. So a Justicar with for example 9 GKs would do:

3 Power Weapon, 18 CCW attacks when charging
or
3 Power Weapon, 18 CCW attacks when getting charged

Although, if you charge yourself, the enemy doesn't get the charge bonus himself.
In the following assault phase (if you are still stuck in close combat) you have True Grit again.

[jy2]

It's not bad for the knights to get charge...unless they're bloodcrushers or bloodletters. They'll wipe out anything short of 3++ TH/SS terminators or Nob bikers. A squad of 8 bloodcrushers = 32 S6 power attacks on the charge. Combine that with re-rollable 3+/5++ saves (3+ re-rollable's are even better than 2+ saves!) and they will kill almost anything.

[Emp.]

It's not bad to charge with GKs, but in this situation it favored me because they needed to roll into terrain to charge my squad while for me to charge them I would have needed to roll out of terrain. Thus, if I charged, they wouldn't get a bonus for charging, but I'd be going last and with a base str5 power weapon attacks and only 8 models in my squad, it's highly unlikely I'd live before even getting attacks, so instead I opted to take the charge and hopefully kill a few before he could get his attacks because they aren't equipped with my grenade like wargear or rules. It turned out that he's a great roller with saves and I ended up only killing 1 and putting another wound on and the squad still wiped. Either way the odds were against, it just went down to, which could I possibly have a bit more effect choosing.