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Old November 2nd, 2009, 02:12   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1500 pt. DH/Inducted Guard Army (comments sorely needed & appreciated)

So I've decided to switch over from doing a flat-out Guard army to building a DH/IG mix. As the models are much more expensive I want to get my list just right before I make anymore purchases. So, all feedback is greatly appreciated.

DH SECTION

HQ
Brother Captain - 107
Thunder Hammer, Holocaust, Targeter

Elites
Inquisitor/Retinue - 183
Psycannon, Targeter, Artificer Armor
-Gun Servitor
Heavy Bolter
-Gun Servitor
Heavy Bolter
-Gun Servitor
Plasma Cannon
-Sage
-2x Mystic

Troops
1 GK Justciar/7 GK - 235
Psycannon Bolts for Justiciar

8x Stormtroopers - 150
2x Meltas
Rhino

8x Stormtroopers - 100
2x Plasmaguns

IG Section

Troops
PCS - 50
Vox
3x Flamers

(All 3 Squads combined)

Infantry Squad - 105
Vox
Grenade Launcher
Heavy Bolter
Commisar

Infantry Squad - 70
Grenade Launcher
Missile Launcher

Infantry Squad - 70
Grenade Launcher
Missile Launcher

PCS - 55
Vox
Lascannon

HWS - 60

Fast Attack
3x Scout Sentinels - 130
2x Autocannons
Lascannon

Heavy Support - 185
Leman Russ Battle Tank
Hull-mounted Lascannon
Heavy Flamer Sponsons


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Old November 3rd, 2009, 19:07   #2 (permalink)
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Hey I often play combined lists as well using either one or the other as a parent.

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DH SECTION

HQ
Brother Captain - 107
Thunder Hammer, Holocaust, Targeter
Taking the thunderhammer means you lose the NFW if I remember. I'd rather have the S7 powerweapon than the hammer.

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Elites
Inquisitor/Retinue - 183
Psycannon, Targeter, Artificer Armor
-Gun Servitor
Heavy Bolter
-Gun Servitor
Heavy Bolter
-Gun Servitor
Plasma Cannon
-Sage
-2x Mystic
This unit seems so expensive and very squishy out in the open. If at all possible, I'd say stuff them in an IG chimera. Personally I prefer a cheaper squad.

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Troops
1 GK Justciar/7 GK - 235
Psycannon Bolts for Justiciar
Eh, drop the psycannon bolts. Pricey.

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8x Stormtroopers - 150
2x Meltas
Rhino

8x Stormtroopers - 100
2x Plasmaguns
Keep these as five-man squads with two meltas. Stick them in IG chimeras.

IG Section

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Troops
PCS - 50
Vox
3x Flamers

(All 3 Squads combined)

Infantry Squad - 105
Vox
Grenade Launcher
Heavy Bolter
Commisar

Infantry Squad - 70
Grenade Launcher
Missile Launcher

Infantry Squad - 70
Grenade Launcher
Missile Launcher
Okay, but I'd prefer to see something more reliable than heavybolters and missile launchers. Lascannons would go nice here.

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PCS - 55
Vox
Lascannon

HWS - 60
Illegal, you still need two infantry squads. Lascannons don't go so well in PCSs I've found. Keep them with grenade launchers or flamers. Lascannons go better as batteries in line squads with a commissar.

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Fast Attack
3x Scout Sentinels - 130
2x Autocannons
Lascannon
If you take this many sentinels, ditch the lascannon for another autocannon.

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Heavy Support - 185
Leman Russ Battle Tank
Hull-mounted Lascannon
Heavy Flamer Sponsons
You're trying to do to much for this tank. Anit-horde, anti-tank, anti-MEQ and it will suck at each of them. Keep it plain, with heavy bolters, or better yet, plasma cannons.


All in all you suffer from anti-tank. With one meltasquad in a flimsy rhino (no smoke or EA) and three unreliable lascannon shots you probably won't be doing much to AV13/14.

I think you can do a lot by cutting points on the Inquisitor. If you want a dakka one, keep him as cheap as possible. Psycannon, three heavy bolters, maybe a sage and/or pair of mystics (saves 36 points in total). Though I may defer to more experience DH players on that account.
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Thanks for the input. I have realized my error with the missing infantry squads since posting, and have incorporated the change. Also, I have heard much about the unreliability of HBs, the only reason that does not match the other squads is because that squad is supposed to be vostroyan models, which do not have a ML model. They do however have very pretty lascannons. I like some of you advice and will apply it after I've received a bit more feedback. Thanks again.
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