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funnymouth · February 14th, 2005, 19:37

seriously, just look at their ws and bs. those points are better spent on another gk that strikes in i order, comes with a storm bolter and a 3+ save and the aegis.
if you dont use gk thats a different story.

Fonus · February 15th, 2005, 10:31

They are not the best CC troops, but for 25 pts you suddenly have a squad that has to be taken in account.

On the charge the Sergeant has 4 x S6 Powerfist attacks that mostly hit on 4+, its not that bad.

Im thinking on equiping the one in the 2xMelta squad since they often will be countercharged after popping a veichle - this way they can make a serious dent in a normal min-maxed squad or making that Dreadnought go another way.. :lol:

Pooky · February 16th, 2005, 10:34

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Originally posted by Fonus@Feb 15 2005, 19:31
Im thinking on equiping the one in the 2xMelta squad since they often will be countercharged after popping a veichle
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They can't be counter charged. If a vehicle is destroyed with troops inside then they are "entangled", i.e. pinned, for a turn. Of course you are then free to rapid fire or charge the entangled troops that turn if you like.

Fonus · February 17th, 2005, 11:37

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Originally posted by Pooky@Feb 16 2005, 10:34
They can't be counter charged. If a vehicle is destroyed with troops inside then they are "entangled", i.e. pinned, for a turn. Of course you are then free to rapid fire or charge the entangled troops that turn if you like.

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I meant it in a general way - Stormtroopers armed with melta gun mounted in a Rhino rushing towards the enemy lines should expect some close engagement.. and thoose times a Thunderhammer could be handy...

Terzo · February 17th, 2005, 21:24

Also remember they are only entangled if the vehicle moved more than 6 inches it's last turn. If not, they still make a pinning check, but it's not automatic.

Pooky · February 18th, 2005, 05:09

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Originally posted by Terzo@Feb 18 2005, 06:24
Also remember they are only entangled if the vehicle moved more than 6 inches it's last turn. If not, they still make a pinning check, but it's not automatic.

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I thought that pinning was automatic... Oh well... Besides if the enemy has a transport that didn't move more than 6' in it's last turn is doing something weird...

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February 15th, 2005, 10:31	#12 (permalink)
Fonus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 61	They are not the best CC troops, but for 25 pts you suddenly have a squad that has to be taken in account. On the charge the Sergeant has 4 x S6 Powerfist attacks that mostly hit on 4+, its not that bad. Im thinking on equiping the one in the 2xMelta squad since they often will be countercharged after popping a veichle - this way they can make a serious dent in a normal min-maxed squad or making that Dreadnought go another way.. :lol:

February 17th, 2005, 21:24	#15 (permalink)
Terzo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 313 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 60	Also remember they are only entangled if the vehicle moved more than 6 inches it's last turn. If not, they still make a pinning check, but it's not automatic.