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Ok, I have a bit of a dilemma in the fact that I am having serious trouble working out usable 1000,1500 and 2000 point armies with my Chaos Daemons in Warhammer Fantasy. So now some of you can have a go! Here's what you have to work with:
Herald of Khorne
35 Bloodletters of Khorne(3 Command Groups included)
11 Flesh Hounds of Khorne
10 Plaguebearers of Nurgle (including 1 Command Group)
20 Horrors of Tzeentch
(Please can you write the points value of each unit next to it so I can chop and swap it to my style without spending hours calculating, subtracting and replacing?)
Ok any suggestions would be helpful. By the way if you decide to take up the challenge of the 2000pts, you'll need a fair bit of upgrading to fill it up.
You've got plenty for 2000 points, well over that actually.
Here's what I'd run. No can do on the points costs, forum rules and all that.
BT w/ immortal fury, firestorm blade, armor of khorne
Herald on Jugger w/ Standard of Sundering and Obsidian Armor
2 units of Bloodletters (1 of 14 with full command and Skull Totem joined by the Jugger Herald, 6x3 and another unit of 18 with full command)
2x 10 Horrors
5 Hounds w/ Karanak
That should be roughly 2000 points. You've got the BT to do all ridiculous amounts of damage, Jugger BSB and Horrors for magic defense, 2 big blocks of Bloodletters and Hounds for all purpose destruction.
Oops sorry I'm new here so didnt read the forum rules about points. i guess its for GW copyright rip off isnt it?
anyway on to the list:
one of my favorite pasttimes is making the most 'killy' (apologies for the orc colloquialism) bloodthirster, and for its points value that makes it high on the list. great!
the two solid units of bloodletters are good but is it really a good idea to put the mounted herald in with them? perhaps i should seperate him or sub him for skull-taker, who wreaks absolute MAYHEM in a large unit of daemons?
Flesh hounds are wonderful, especially with Karanak who would do well on a flank and then charge in to slay an enemy wizard, probably his assigned target.
thoughts on these ideas?
also surely its better to mass the power of the horrors together to make them a level two spellcaster rather than two singles. also, positioned well, it could almost be shielded behind the khorne warriors and bloodthirster so that 'gift of chaos' could effect all the units these three are in combat with,
The Herald is there because he can be your BSB with the Standard of Sundering. With very few casters you will have trouble stopping enemy magic, so you have to make the most of your dispel dice, the Standard of Sundering helps immensely here. He's on a Jugger not for speed, but the 0+ save when combined with Obsidian Armor. 2S5 attacks with killing blow don't hurt either I prefer Heralds because of the locus too, making the most of your Bloodletters' few attacks.
Horrors are split for the same reason, to maximize your dispel dice. With only 4 power dice you probably won't be getting many spells off, and 2 flickering fires is better than 1 flickering fire and gift of chaos.
Skulltaker is great, but in this particular list I'd say the BSB helps a lot more.
hmmm... now i understand the herald and the horrors. how do you propose to use the bloodthirster?
and i guess u intend to just use the bloodcrusher model as a herald and then just slip a banner behind it?
and for the standard im not sure u get to choose which lore you mess up AFTER the opponent has chosen, right??
ANNNDDD i just added it up totalling 1893 pts with only 65 pts being used out of a possible 100 on the bloodthirster, which means there's space to make him even more evil and perhaps some more magic banners???
Whoa dude, don't double (or quadruple) post, it's against forums rules.
The BT is your all purpose killer, flying around and hitting units in the flanks to break them or going toe to toe with monsters and the like and smashing them asunder.
Yep, Bloodcrusher = Herald.
Sundering has you pick the lore of your choice after the enemy has picked their spells. I don't have the book handy, but it should tell you exactly when (you select spells before deployment).
The last 100 or so points could get you a Spell Breaker on your BT and more Bloodletters. To get up to 2250 Skulltaker would be really handy, as would some Furies.