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If my opponent have 2 units in front of mine and it is obvious that he is baiting for my unit to charge his and he could charge in with his other unit - what is the best thing to do in this situation as daemons? If I don't charge I will be charged next turn but by only one unit and i won't get ganged up but I will take casualties first. I could try to cover my flanks and counter charge him after he charges but that is if i have an available unit there. Any suggestions from veterans? Is it better to charge since daemons dont panic and with fear there might be better possibility of me overrunning and avoid the flank charge. Suggestions?
That is a hard question with out the facts, with what unit and what are you trying to do?
But it is always better to give than to recieve!8X
2) Dont let yourself get in that situation, have multiple units ready to charge multiple targets.
3) Counter bait them, sacrifice a unit by adjusting its position so that when they are charged, they'll restrain/over run in the direction of your favor. (baiting them into Woods is a good idea too, at least that unit will be out of the game for the next 2 turns.. especially if they are Blood Knights)
If I have the choice, i would try to do 1) first, and if they all died before they could get into march block position, then I would re-arrange my units to form 2).. and if all else fails, 3) would be my last resort.. at least I would trade unit with your unit and I'll be happy with that.
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Of, if you have Daemonettes with a Banner of Ecstasy and/or Herald, you may want them to charge you so you can rip them up thanks to ASF or hold them down for some Flesh Hounds on the flank.
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There is no surefire tactic for such a general question/situation. It is really something decided on a case by case basis. The one thing that can be said is that such tactics must be set up in advance so you can see it coming. Daemons have very very fast units so we can react on the fly to that sort of thing. Furies, Seekers, Fiends and Hounds can all negate this tactic fairly easily.
My personal way of dealing with fleeing units is to place a fast unit like Hounds in close proximity to the bait unit with a screen of furies in front to clip and divert any charges coming my way. On my next turn I declare the charge and even if the bait unit flees, chances are my Hounds have the reach to get the charge on the unit behind, and with their CC abilities they can give almost any troop a run for their money if they get the charge. As with Fear and such they have a fair chance of breaking the following unit and pursuing them right into the fleeing bait unit. Did this once against my friends Glade Guard and Dryads. This does get more dangerous though if your throwing your Hounds into the face of a unit with lots of static combat res.
Another option is dual charges with Furies sitting about 6" directly out on the flank of the bait unit. Declare the charge with your main unit and the furies, even if the unit flees out of range of the main unit, they still wont get away from the furies and the furies on the flank wont have to worry about running into the combat unit sitting behind the bait.
As I said, baiting is a fairly obvious tactic and you should be able to see it coming and be prepared for it.
Last edited by Undead Bonzi; June 13th, 2008 at 06:42.
The only honorable options left to we combatants is seppuku or semantics...which amount to the same thing really.
yeah baiting is pretty obvious but I guess since daemons are elite units they will be outnumbered most of the time and there's only so many of my units I can assign to guard instead of going for their targets...
On a side note I will be playing with my chaos army for the first time today.. against/ WE/OK/DE...