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well you heard the rumours, what we can expect of the new WoC. While I made the decision to go Chaos for my second army (UndeadBonzi must be smiling if he's reading this ), I also heard there is an expected second wave of Daemonic models, which will fill in some of the gaps in the current range.
I'm into the Chaos for fluff, much less for play style, and I like both model ranges, even though the WoC sometimes have the upper hand. My question is, considering I already have a large WE force, what would you go for of these two armies? Should I wait for the WoC, or should I go Daemons, possibly getting heralds and some new Slaaneshi stuff next year?
I've read the Daemons book and I love what's in there, the fluff is simply excellent, but I'm still intrigued by the upcoming WoC. I don't want to spend huge amounts of money on my second army right now, so I'm concerned with cost as well. A Khorne/Tzeentch army or a Khorne/Slaanesh army can be rather inexpensive, but I don't know about the WoC.
There are a lot more 'obvious' trade-offs with Daemons than there are with mortals. Each daemon unit tends to have a key strength and a key weakness (e.g. Bloodletters strike hard, but aren't very resilient), compared to Mortal units who weaknesses aren't substantial (which is reflected in the points cost).
However, Daemons have flexibility. My current daemon army performs in all phases of the game while mortal Chaos will tend to forgo shooting (unless you want to put a lot of points into a hellcannon) most of the time and they also lack flying/skirmishing units that are so useful to guard flanks and hit enemy war machines.
Daemons have a range of units that can give most armies (and importantly, wood elves) a hard time. While mortals are rock hard, they will have a harder time adjusting to a more nimble opponent.
I am a long time Warriors player. My armies have been combos of knights and warriors for as long as I have been playing the army (around 12 years). But when I finally get to experiment with the book properly, I may still stick with the daemons. I think my "Kick in the front door" phase is over.
Having an army and not owning a rulebook is like owning a car with no steering wheel.Originally Posted by amishcellphone
It really depends on what you like. I know, everybody says this, and I'm fairly certain that you've said so many a time yourself. As far as army composition goes, here’re my thoughts on the two.
Warriors of chaos have always been a blunt instrument of destruction, and from what I've seen, that isn't going to be changing any time soon. If you want a change of pace from wood elves, warriors of chaos are about as different from them as you can get. Instead of dancing around poking holes into the enemy until they bleed to death, warriors tend to adhere to the policy of "Hey diddle, diddle, run down the middle" and they do it well. If you want to bust down the door, ignore puny arrows, and have the best Calvary (Sorry blood crushers, but chosen knights of Khorne pack just as much punch for half the cost) in the game, then the warriors of chaos are for you.
Daemons bring much more versatility to the table. Tzeentch can shove magic down anybody throats, Nurgle is more durable (And faster) than dwarfs, Slaanesh can out-run even wood elves in many cases, and Khorne.... is just Khorne. If the Warriors of chaos were a blunt instrument of destruction, then the daemons are its schizophrenic wielder. The thing I like about the daemons over warriors is the fact that they can do a lot more than smash face, and they can do it well. I constantly flit from tactic to tactic depending on my mood, and the daemons are one of the few armies flexible enough to keep my attention. They can smash face, they can shove magic down throats, they can run (and fly) rings around their enemies, and they can take a hit like a beast. Unlike the Warriors of chaos, the daemons cannot fight or be analyzed on a unit-by-unit basis, and none of them can function properly in a vacuum. Daemon units are parts of a holistic whole, just like their fluff, and when used properly, the entire army is a single, living, breathing organism that is beautiful to behold.
I'm too lazy to come up with a witty sig.
Yeah, that's what I actually like about them, the synergies. On the other hand, they currently have a problem with lots of missing models, most notably chariots, as these are expensive and difficult to convert. But then again, the Daemons are as close to the Gods themselves as you can get.
This certainly gives me something to think about. Meanwhile, enjoy the reps!