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I've been lurking around the fantasy forums for a week now trying to decide which army I wanted to settle on. I'm currently at a stand still between Warriors of Chaos, Skaven and Daemons of Chaos. Originally I had wanted to go Beasts of Chaos but from what I hear they are at somewhat of a disadvantage with the current rules and aren't going to see a change for another couple months.
While I think I've ruled out the Skaven, I'm still a deadlock between which aspect of Chaos I want to start up with.
My main concerns now are that I've heard Daemons are a strong list that people like to bring to games just to win. Of course everyone wants to win at some point, but I'm also a bit worried of how many eyes are going to roll when I walk into a store or club to play with another daemon army.
My question is, will the eyes start rolling if another guy shows up with daemons to smash everyone? And if this is true are daemons so alluring right now that everyone and his cousin are using them while they're still one of the strong armies?
Much thanks in advance!
Beasts are indeed disadvantaged right now. They were originally made to mix and match between Daemons and Warriors, but the new books have taken that out and cut half of the options out of their book. Combine that with the continued weakness of their Raiders rule and you have a gimped army. They aren't unplayable, but it requires a lot of work to be successful.
Skaven are also up for a revamp next year supposedly. I play the army and I can tell you it is still viable, but I'm holding out for new models so they are temporarily retired.
Warriors and Daemons both have new books and are very much viable. Daemons have a lot of potential to be totally game-breaking, so you may run into problems if you decide to field a Bloodthirster, Flesh Hounds and Flamers with minimal Core. There are also plenty of ways to play the army that are still competitive, but not as mind-numbingly boring and overpowered. Warriors aren't as ridiculously awesome, but they have a lot of variety within the list and some very good combos. Their biggest problem is an average Ld (more susceptible to psychology unless you take lots of marks), low movement on their hitty blocks, lack of protection for characters, and lack of any kind of light skirmishing troop to protect their flanks.
Both fun armies, so the choice for you could be a matter of personal preference.
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On another note, Daemons can be a fairly cheap army to play, as can WoC. Skaven are going to be very expensive and time consuming to paint and assemble.
The problem for Daemons comes when you want to include alot of PBs or Horrors in the army. I solved my Horror problem by making mine out of Dryads. They came out pretty nice, and I get comments about them all the time. They do save alot or money and are actually easier to paint. I don't have a similar solution for PBs, though...
No, I don't have any wool.
Hmmmm Dryadds as Horrors. I like it. I have a flaming blue colour scheme in mind for them. Cheers Blacksheep.
I have a friend who is going to convert some dryads to be nurgle looking Blood letters as he wants to use the rules for all the models, but stick with an all Nurgle theme.
Bloodcrushers and Screamers are horribly expensive as well.
But cost a lot in terms of points. Once you throw in a greater daemon thats a third of your points gone on one model.
I ended up with a couple daemons (bloodletters, plaguebearers, and a soul grinder) so I think I'm going to go with a 40k army with them. I also got the battalion, mounted lord, and a sorceror for Warriors of Chaos, so I'm working to complete them first.
With daemons is there something you can set the circle bases in or if I wanted to use them for fantasy as well would I need to pull off their bases and put on the squares? I like the idea of running them for fantasy as well, and maybe one day picking up beasts of chaos too. Yay three armies, since I can't decide on one!