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Which is the better Greater Daemon. When you look at the base stats, they are similar in close combat, only 1 attack, 1 point in intiative and 1 point WS in difference. I hear that a KoS cannot matcha Bloothirster in combat, and i am doubting this. The ALwasy strike first is a big factor in this. Even a Lord of Change is impressive for a lord type character. (but that is beside the point) You also got the fact a Keeper can cast magic. I however wish to focus on the Close combat aspects. Which do you think is better suited for this. You can include gifts, Even with gifts they are not that far apart in CC.
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The main reason that the Bloodthirster is better than the KoS in CC is the wings. It allows the BT to get to the combats that he wants when and where he wants them. The KoS can be blocked by Terrain and other units. When in CC they are similar but the BT does get the edge because he can re-roll misses. ASF is not that big of a deal as you should always be getting the charge with these beasts. You just have to be smart about what you charge. Don't use the BT against units that you know or suspect have ASF. We have the rest of our army to deal with those. Even so the BT has toughness, armor, and ward to get through so even units striking first is usually not going to make a difference.
Yes, I would say the BT takes the cake on this one, on a pure Close Combat basis. It's the Keeper's magic which I think balances it out, but for CC, the BT has so many combos.
Obsidian Armour makes it almost impossible for Characters to kill him, Dark Insanity+Immortal Fury can overwhelm most things with the amount of re-rollable attacks you get, and the Collar of Khorne can frustrate Mages, considering Magic is a good way to kill of something like a Greater Daemon (OK, not a CC ability, but can help him get to close combat in the first place)
Then Wings just top it off. You pick the fights you want, or the fights the rest of the army can't deal with.
The Bloodthirster's other main advantage is that he can't miscast .
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