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    ...or is it? Attila the Hun Jr's Avatar
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    2k Dark elf army

    I'm experimenting with this list. I already changed a couple of things with it, and so far my results with it have been two massacres against a high elf and an Orcs & Goblins army. The Beastmaster without a mount may asound dumb, but in one game she took down a chariot, a wizard and the enemy leader, and a wizard and a few other troops in the other game. So:

    Lords

    Highborn
    >Repeater crossbow
    >Heavy armour
    >Sea-dragon cloak
    >Shield
    >Dark steed
    >Lifetaker
    >Hydra blade
    >Blood armour
    >Additional hand weapon..........282pts

    Heroes

    Sorceress
    >Level 2 wizard
    >Armour of Darkness..........155pts

    Beastmaster
    >Light armour
    >Sea dragon cloak
    >Heartseeker..........73pts

    Noble
    >Great weapon
    >Heavy armour
    >Sea dragon cloak
    >Shield
    >Blade of Ruin..........136pts

    Core units

    16 Dark elf warriors
    >Repeater crossbows
    >Lordling..........186pts

    15 Dark elf warriors
    >Shields
    >Lordling
    >Standard bearer
    >Musician..........145pts

    5 Dark riders
    >Herald
    >Repeater crossbows..........134pts

    Special units

    6 Shades
    >Light armour
    >Bloodshade..........102pts

    12 Witch elves
    >Musician
    >Standard bearer
    >Banner of murder
    >Hag..........229pts

    6 Cold One knights
    >Dread knight..........192

    Cold one chariot
    >Repeater crossbows..........105pts

    Rare units

    2 Repeater Bolt throwers..........

    Last edited by Skarsgard; October 20th, 2007 at 05:18. Reason: unit totals removed ~Skar
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    Highborn
    >Repeater crossbow
    >Heavy armour
    >Sea-dragon cloak
    >Shield
    >Dark steed
    >Lifetaker
    >Hydra blade
    >Blood armour
    >Additional hand weapon..........282pts
    Too much stuff that is unnecessary. Don't give your highborn lifetaker, with such a high ballistic skill he will be hitting on a 2+ most of the time anyway with a normal repeater crossbow. And the reroll wound ability is not going to make much of a dfference.

    Also, why give him the hydra blade and an additional hand weapon? Why forego using a very expensive magic weapon that generates more attacks than another hand weapon? And means you can't have a shield?

    Sorceress
    >Level 2 wizard
    >Armour of Darkness..........155pts
    A sorceress cannot wear magic armour and still cast spells.

    Besides which, at 2000 points a single level 2 sorceress is not going to do anything worthwhile. Better to make her a level one with 2 dispell scrolls, nothing else.

    Beastmaster
    >Light armour
    >Sea dragon cloak
    >Heartseeker..........73pts
    I honestly don't understand how a beastmaster on foot could do so much damage. His forte is his mounts, also, the heartseeker is not worth the effort as without a mount, he wont be charging all that often.

    Even the DE updates support his being mounted with the addition of a lance to his armoury options.

    He should also have the protection of a unit.

    Noble
    >Great weapon
    >Heavy armour
    >Sea dragon cloak
    >Shield
    >Blade of Ruin..........136pts
    Again with the doubling up on weapons. Why pay so much for a magic sword you will forego using when equiped with a great weapon + losing the advantage of using a shield.

    Besides which, the blade of ruin is NOT worth the points, far better to simply give him the sword of might and leave it at that.

    16 Dark elf warriors
    >Repeater crossbows
    >Lordling..........186pts
    Too many.

    Too many for one rank and wasting shots in two.

    The lordling does nothing for this unit either, neither enhancing their ranged ability nor significantly enhancing their combat prowess.

    Better to make this two (or even better, one) units of 10 with shields.

    15 Dark elf warriors
    >Shields
    >Lordling
    >Standard bearer
    >Musician..........145pts
    Too small.

    These should be in units of at least 20 with 25 being optimal. They are a static combat resolution unit and at 15 models they are missing out on a rank bonus of 2.

    Also, unless there is a character with them, drop the lordling.

    On the character note, where are yours going? The lord should not be with the dark riders as he is a combat character and if he goes with the knights you should lose the crossbow and give him a cold one.

    The beastmaster needs a mount. Period.

    The noble should be with the spearmen or better yet, the chariot and the sorceress with the crossbows.

    5 Dark riders
    >Herald
    >Repeater crossbows..........134pts
    Good.

    6 Shades
    >Light armour
    >Bloodshade..........102pts
    Drop the bloodshade. He costs about as much as another shade and doesn't make up for the deficit in performance.

    The light armour is also not really necessary as it doesn't offer any appreciable protection and skirmishers shouldn't need it.

    12 Witch elves
    >Musician
    >Standard bearer
    >Banner of murder
    >Hag..........229pts
    Kill the banner of murder in favour of a warbanner.

    Give the hag manbane or drop her as well.

    The unit size is good.

    6 Cold One knights
    >Dread knight..........192
    Make this 5 to facilitate the highborn.

    Only take the dreadknight if the highborn joins the unit.

    Otherwise good.

    Cold one chariot
    >Repeater crossbows..........105pts
    Repeater crossbows make no significant difference, give them spears only.

    There should also be a second chariot as they work much more effectively in pairs. And they should have a noble in hear to minimise stupidity.

    2 Repeater Bolt throwers..........
    Good.

    so far my results with it have been two massacres against a high elf and an Orcs & Goblins army.
    In your favour?

    This doesn't make much sense because the army composition, to put it delicately, was far from perfect.

    You wasted points on your characters and didn't invest enough into your infantry units OR invested to many in units that won't do anything to majorly effect the battles outcome.

    Regards
    Last edited by Skarsgard; October 20th, 2007 at 05:19. Reason: unit totals removed ~Skar
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    U]Highborn[/U]
    >Repeater crossbow
    >Heavy armour
    >Sea-dragon cloak
    >Shield
    >Dark steed
    >Lifetaker
    >Hydra blade
    >Blood armour
    >Additional hand weapon..........282pts
    He cant take an ad. hand weapon if youve given him a magical weapon (Hydra blade). Same with crossbow, cant have a mundane one AND lifetaker (magical).

    Sorceress
    >Level 2 wizard
    >Armour of Darkness..........155pts
    Wizards cannot wear armour.
    A lone level 2 wont do any damage in 2k points. Make her a level 1 with 2 scrolls

    Noble
    >Great weapon
    >Heavy armour
    >Sea dragon cloak
    >Shield
    >Blade of Ruin..........136pts
    again, cant have a great weapon and Blade of Rhuin.

    Core units

    16 Dark elf warriors
    >Repeater crossbows
    >Lordling..........186pts
    16 is a strange number for them. Are you using the 6th ed. rule book?
    Anyway, make them 10 with no command and maybe shields.

    15 Dark elf warriors
    >Shields
    >Lordling
    >Standard bearer
    >Musician..........145pts
    Good if you make them 20-25

    5 Dark riders
    >Herald
    >Repeater crossbows..........134pts
    Swap the Herald for a musician.

    6 Shades
    >Light armour
    >Bloodshade..........102pts
    Id drop the armour & blood shade to keep them nice & cheap.

    12 Witch elves
    >Musician
    >Standard bearer
    >Banner of murder
    >Hag..........229pts
    A bit expensive for such a small/fragile unit. Drop the banner & give the Hag either witchbrew or Manbane. & try to get 14

    6 Cold One knights
    >Dread knight..........192
    Ok

    Cold one chariot
    >Repeater crossbows..........105pts
    Take spears. Crossbows are too expensive on chariots to bother with

    Rare units

    2 Repeater Bolt throwers..........
    Good

    Cheers
    Last edited by Skarsgard; October 20th, 2007 at 05:19. Reason: unit totals removed ~Skar
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    Thanks for the thoughts. I use the highborn with the riders or cold ones, I use the noble with the spearmen, and the scorceress ad beastmaster usually go in a unit.

    I thought the lifetaker was an improvement, I did not know it was a repeater crossbow itself. And I didn't know the stuff about additional hand weapons and shields.

    Personally, I like the blade of Ruin.

    Again, thanks

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    I know this thread is kinda dead, but I was looking for some nice tips for a DE army...

    You can't take the Hydra Blade and Lifetaker on the same character, as they are both magic weapons. Or am I missing something?

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