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    2500 first try

    Hey all, I have decided to try posting some lists before I buy the models...

    Here we go!

    Lokhir Fellheart

    Dreadlord on cold one w/ shield, sea dragon cloak, death piercer, blood armor and pendant of Khaeleth
    254 pts

    Sorceress LVL2 w/ sacrificial dagger, dispel scroll
    185 pts

    Sorceress LVL2 w/ darkstar cloak, dispell scroll
    185 pts

    17x corsairs (3 ranks of 6 w/ Lokhir), SSS
    205 pts

    10x RXB w/ shields & music
    115 pts

    10x RXB w/ shields & music
    115 pts

    19x warriors, FC, warbanner (Sorc. 1 here)
    173 pts

    19x warriors, FC, warbanner (Sorc. 2 here)
    173 pts

    5x harpies

    5x harpies

    Cold one chariot

    5x cold one knights, banner of cold blood (dreadlord here)
    166 pts

    5x shades w/ GWs

    2x RBT

    1x War Hydra

    Let me know what you think!

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    I've been thinking and I made a few changes.

    Dreadlord on cold one w/ shield, sea dragon cloak, death piercer, Armour of eternal servitude and pendant of Khaeleth
    274 pts

    Sorceress LVL2 w/ sacrificial dagger, dispel scroll
    185 pts

    Sorceress LVL2 w/ darkstar cloak, dispell scroll
    185 pts

    17x corsairs (3 ranks of 6 w/ assassin),SB w/ SSS
    Assassin w/ rune of khaine, manbane
    351pts

    10x RXB w/ shields & music
    115 pts

    10x RXB w/ shields & music
    115 pts

    19x warriors, FC, shields, warbanner (Sorc. 1 here)
    173 pts

    19x warriors, FC, shields, warbanner (Sorc. 2 here)
    173 pts

    5x harpies

    5x harpies

    Cold one chariot

    5x cold one knights (dreadlord here)

    6x cold one knights, Dread Knight w/ pearl of infinite bleakness
    203 pts

    2x RBT

    1x War Hydra

    Let me know what you think of this version!
    Last edited by gingerninja; August 18th, 2008 at 10:47.
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    You have a Warbanner in two different units of warriors, this is illegal as it is a one only item I think.
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    lol, the danger of copy and paste....

    Below is the updated list with the error removed.

    Dreadlord on cold one w/ shield, sea dragon cloak, death piercer, Armour of eternal servitude and pendant of Khaeleth
    274 pts

    Sorceress LVL2 w/ sacrificial dagger, dispel scroll
    185 pts

    Sorceress LVL2 w/ darkstar cloak, dispell scroll
    185 pts

    17x corsairs (3 ranks of 6 w/ assassin),SB w/ SSS
    Assassin w/ rune of khaine, manbane
    351pts

    10x RXB w/ shields & music
    115 pts

    10x RXB w/ shields & music
    115 pts

    19x warriors, FC, shields, banner of cold blood (Sorc. 1 here)
    163 pts

    19x warriors, FC, shields, warbanner (Sorc. 2 here)
    173 pts

    5x harpies

    5x harpies

    Cold one chariot

    5x cold one knights, dread knight (dreadlord here)
    151 pts

    6x cold one knights, Dread Knight w/ pearl of infinite bleakness
    203 pts

    2x RBT

    1x War Hydra

    I figured the banner of cold blood would be good in the first unit of warriors as the sorceress will be sacrificing them throughout the game. Otherwise I could drop it for a null shard on the first unit of CoK... all opinions welcome!
    Last edited by Ironangel256; August 18th, 2008 at 21:50.
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    Well, isn't War Banner a lesser magic item you can duplicate just as sword of might or whatever?

    Okay, time to go...

    Dreadlord is rock hard and gives these CoK a lot of killing potency. But... they already have it. What are you going to charge, Chaos Knights? Not very propobaly. CoK can easily win combat even with CR units. I don't think they need him... He should be therefore more mobile, so cheap pegasus or dark steed, maybe manticore, but that's just my opinion. He's nice now and if you know how to you him - free hand.

    Sorcoresses are same as mine.

    You have not enough Corsairs to fill 6 ranks. You need 18. Assasin replaces one model, he is not added to unit's number. And you don't have to add him directly to unit, you just take him - you are free to send him to any unit and only tell enemy that he is somewhere there.

    Xbowmen and Warriors fine, but... Warriors are cheap and reliable when used large in number. I think they have to be used in 5x5 formation, so that they receive they're greatest weapon - static CR - even after some shooting or first fight.

    Harpies excelent, but wait a second, you lack propobaly best light cavalary in the game, and cheap. Why is that?

    Chariot. Still cheap, far better. But only one. Some people say yes, some people say no. Only keep in mind that there are better things.

    CoK as usual.

    Propobaly reliablest and best configuration of Rare units.

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    Well, isn't War Banner a lesser magic item you can duplicate just as sword of might or whatever?
    Not too sure here... I have never played fantasy...

    Dreadlord is rock hard and gives these CoK a lot of killing potency. But... they already have it. What are you going to charge, Chaos Knights? Not very propobaly. CoK can easily win combat even with CR units. I don't think they need him... He should be therefore more mobile, so cheap pegasus or dark steed, maybe manticore, but that's just my opinion. He's nice now and if you know how to you him - free hand.
    Manticore could be cool though this would require some severe tuning.

    You have not enough Corsairs to fill 6 ranks. You need 18. Assasin replaces one model, he is not added to unit's number. And you don't have to add him directly to unit, you just take him - you are free to send him to any unit and only tell enemy that he is somewhere there.
    Thanks for the clarification... I will make the change.

    Xbowmen and Warriors fine, but... Warriors are cheap and reliable when used large in number. I think they have to be used in 5x5 formation, so that they receive they're greatest weapon - static CR - even after some shooting or first fight.
    From what I have seen and read 5x4 should be just fine for spear warriors though I will consider it especially if I end up converting some Dark riders from Glade Riders as I will have some left over warrior bits.

    Harpies excelent, but wait a second, you lack propobaly best light cavalary in the game, and cheap. Why is that?
    Cheap they may be but they are still twice as expensive as harpies points wise and the models themselves cost an arm and a leg.

    Chariot. Still cheap, far better. But only one. Some people say yes, some people say no. Only keep in mind that there are better things.

    CoK as usual.

    Propobaly reliablest and best configuration of Rare units.
    Well, I actually have a gamezone dark elf chariot from a while back so it will stay in the list.

    Thanks for the comments!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dire View Post
    Well, isn't War Banner a lesser magic item you can duplicate just as sword of might or whatever?
    Nope no special treatment for common magic items. If there are an exception it would say so in the description like null talisman or dispel scroll.

    FYI: pearl of infinite bleakness does not cancel out stupidity if that were your intention. Having that said I don't think it'll be of good use on a cold one knights unit. ItP is nice but not being able to choose flee as a charge reaction is really bad on cavalry. You can use ring of hotek to further strengthen your magic defense.
    I'd use the familiar instead of dark star cloak as you can generate more than enough power dice by your own but you'll always want to have better range on your spells.
    And... put your dread lord in that chariot?... no?
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    Dreadlord on cold one chariot w/ shield, sea dragon cloak, death piercer, Armour of eternal servitude and pendant of Khaeleth
    334 pts

    Sorceress LVL2 w/ sacrificial dagger, dispel scroll
    185 pts

    Sorceress LVL2 w/ darkstar cloak, dispell scroll
    185 pts

    Assassin w/ rune of khaine, manbane
    146 pts

    18x corsairs (3 ranks of 6 w/ assassin),SB w/ SSS
    215 pts

    10x RXB w/ music
    105 pts

    10x RXB w/ music
    105 pts

    19x warriors, FC, shields, banner of cold blood (Sorc. 1 here)
    163 pts

    19x warriors, FC, shields, warbanner (Sorc. 2 here)
    173 pts

    5x dark riders w/ music, RXB
    117 pts

    5x dark riders w/ music, RXB
    117 pts

    5x cold one knights

    5x cold one knights

    2x RBT

    1x War Hydra

    Here is the most recent version... thanks for the input thus far!
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    extra hand weapon on the assassin? best pts spent for +1A ever!
    I'd also exchange the death piercer on your dreadlord for the potion of strength and lance/halberd. Death piercer is just too expensive for what it does.
    I'd also try to find the pts for a BSB. With so many rank and file infantry blocks, they would benefit greatly from the re roll break test. I'd remove one unit of crossbows and reduce the second infantry unit to 13 and and a Master upped to BSB and with Blood armour + SDC + Crimson death. Put him in the smaler spear unit and it'll give you +5 static CR plus any unit within 12" re-rolls break tests.
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    Hey, nice mount for Dreadlord. Now, that makes sense!
    Don't listen to zhaf about Deathpiercir - it all depends who is your enemy. Potion of Strengh gives +3 strengh on two combat phases; but against some just KB is better. It depends on armour, numbers of enemy and his characters.

    I would exchange Darkstar Cloack for Tome of Furion - one more spell is always nice, and as if you haven't got enough Power Dice yet.

    Errr... yep, Assasin should have 2nd HW.

    Crossbowmen... Drop Musicians! What they gonna give you? Ability to rally and do nothing later? Or what? Alternatively exchange them for Guardmasters - +1 BS for 5 points is worth IMO.

    I really don't think that Warriors need magic Banners... Cold blood is one use only... And Warbanner costs 25 points... for 35 you get another rank, that will allow the unit to fight longer and receive rank bonus later...

    Double Dark Riders and Double Harpies. That's what I'm talking about!

    Do Cold One Knights have nothing? You mean they're supporting chargers, right?

    Propobaly best rare configuration as before.

    Outcluding these small changes, I like the list. I really do!

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