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lokhir 250 pts
Assasin with Rune of khaine, Additional hand wep (put in warrior unit) 121pts
unit of 20 corsairs Full command 2 hand weps 225pts
unit of 20 warriors musicion/standard bearer spear/sheilds 129pts
15x Black Gaurd full command, hag greaf banner, crimson death for Tmaster 290pts
I know I am lacking in anti magic and ranged big time but my plan is to send in harpies against their shooting and cold ones agaisnt their biggest threat and have them tie up them until the rest get here. BG should be able to massacre about anything once they get there and all units are fairly equal in threat size with lokhir in one and assasin in other. I love all out CC fast lists with little magic and ranged comments would be greatly appreciated. I know its a different strategy but will it work?
Last edited by lofton; August 28th, 2008 at 12:46.
Hi, nice list.
One thing i might change is the crimson death for the ring of hotek. might just make bearing the magic phase that much easier. failing that maybe just a null talisman for MR1 ir MR2 if you can afford 2.
I'd be carefull about throwing in your cold ones so early on as they often cant handle a full unit by themselves so althpough i agree on the unit, i probably wouldnt use them as you intend. maybe run them up a flank to flank charge at the same time your other units get into combat.
Hope this helps a little,
i have to agreee with him above but my biggest concern is that fell heart isnt worth is points in small games under 2k becuase hell attract all the shooting and probly wont reach combat. so id change him for a master or get 2 lvl 2 wizards to own the magic phase and maybe boost up warriors to 25
I think you should exchange the CoKs for a Hydra. I simply think the hydra is all too good for the points! It has great defence (WS4, as 4+ and reg.) and sublime offence (7a, s5) and has a breath attack that can remove entire units.
I like the idea of hydra instead of cold ones the hydra appears to be more of a threat and probably is just not as quick.. I know fellheart is expensive I just thought with his leap ability and cover saves he would be ok especially with BG there to attract attention with full command and banner. Also the warriors with beefed up assasin and a Hydra I wouldnt want to let any go unshot. What if I switched fellheart to the warrios and the assasin to corsairs? This could attract more attention to the warriors and less to the corsairs. Either way I think it should work. I just figrued if one unit gets hammered the others are powerful enough to pull through. I think the ring of hotek would be good switch. Do you think the list would hold up? I am curios to try this one I love CC armies sorceresses just dont do it for me.
Last edited by lofton; August 27th, 2008 at 23:02.
i get wat u saying and if its a fell heart themeed aarmy or u jus like the model go for im jus scared cuz losing 350 plus the squad he in can be game winner in its self.(100 points for killing general). I once lost my witch king in 2k and well its was over XD
Well felheart is actually only 250 pts. I will prob try it out atleast I think there are some other pretty big threats. Other than that how does the new list look?
You miscalculated on the warriors: Its 20 points higher. You will have to find them somewhere.
Also, your Black Guard may struggle to get into combat at all with no unit to shield it from enemy shooting and magic. You can be pretty sure that the enemy shooting is pointed their way!
Should I screen them with warriors? Do tou think the other 2 units and hydra can carry the army if BG get shot up or not? Or should I revamp my list and take out corsairs and fellheart and have
1 lvl 2 sorceress some items 185
5 dark riders 120
5 cold ones 175
25x warriors 190
15x 290 BG
Hydra 175 pts
10xbolt throwers 110 no command
I personally like my CC but would like an army that has potential to deal with all armies for tournies.
Last edited by lofton; August 29th, 2008 at 02:40.
I dont know - I usually screen the BG with crossbowmen with shields. I would go for a sorceress with a sacrificial dagger in a unit of 30 spearmen and a unit of 10 crossbows to screen the BG and weaken the enemy. The repeater crossbow has really improved with armour piercing rule - its definatly worth it now!
I like both the hydra and CoKs! I think they shall be nasty together. DONT forget that you can make a 12' long marsh with the hydra and then flame the hell out of the enemy. Against humans or elves the breath attack wounds at 2+ and allow no armour save or 6+, resulting in 10-15 kills in one breath attack!! :-)