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    1st 2000 pt DE list

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    Dreadlord
    Pendant Khaeleth
    Armor of Darkness
    Soulrender
    Null Talmisman
    240

    Master
    Battle standard
    Armor eternal servi
    Sword of Might
    Shield
    Sea dragon cloak
    161
    Master
    Ring of hotek
    Whip of agony
    Shield
    Hvy armor
    Sea dragon cloak
    140

    Master
    Cold one
    Hvy armor
    Shield
    Sea Dragon cloak
    Deathpiercer
    135


    Special
    20 Black Guard
    Kouran
    Musician
    Standard
    Magic standard
    (Always strike first) 391

    7 Cold One Knights
    Dread Knight
    Standard
    221
    8 Shades
    Hand weapons
    136

    Core

    10 DE Rptr Xbow
    Guardmaster
    105
    10 DE Rptr Xbow
    Guardmaster
    105
    24 Warriors
    Lordling
    Musician
    Standard
    Shields
    183

    24 Warriors
    Lordling
    Musician
    Standard
    Shields
    183

    Total: 2000 exactly


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    Ok you'll have to give us more info than that. Tell us how you're going to play the list. If it's competitive or friendly. Is it themed in a particular way? You have to talk to us.
    If it is a competitive list than I'd say that you've put way too many pts into characters. And some magic defense other than the ring is so important.
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    General idea is to send the black guard to the front just to take charges and hopefully clear most of thier front rank before they attack back, have the warriors supporting either flank of the black guard, have the repeater crossbows on the far flanks with the cold one knights going down it.


    The shades annoy and offer an appealing target for an enemy charge, flee from it for counter attacks for other units.


    Currently im considering dropping the shades & one of the masters buying a hydra and a bolt thrower.

    I do need magical defence i know, but im hoping that with a null talisman in the stronger units that will be enough.

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    You still have to tell us if it's a friendly or competitive list. You'll get very different advice. You can't just pus the black guards forward and expect them to survive. You have to get a screen for them to protect them from missile fire. A small group of corsairs is good for that. As I said before you have put way to many pts into your characters. And sadly no only the ring and a null talisman won't protect you from magic in a 2000pts game. It's not always about stopping a spell to hit you. Armies like TK and VC cast spells on their own units to buff them up by quite a bit so you'll want to stop that too. Shades should have GW so that they can be a good support unit. If you want to remove something you should remove the masters as I can't see their uses the way they're equipped. I'd exchange the x-bow warriors to DR units. You don't need 3 big blocks of infantry. Swap one warrior unit for something else, bolt throwers is a good investment.
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    Its supposed to be competitive, im quite new to fantasy. My main experience is playing against dwarves so im not used to seeing that much magic.

    I would really like to be able to counter most magic, but at the same time i dont like having magic. (I dont really want sorceresses).


    this master is totally surplus to requirements

    Ring of hotek
    Whip of agony
    Shield
    Hvy armor
    Sea dragon cloak
    140

    I think id benefit from swapping a warrior squad for some black ark corsairs, maybe with frenzy, dont know.

    If you can make some suggestions!

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    Of course i would move the ring of hotek elsewhere

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    Question:

    Can the Dreadlord take both the Pendant of K and a Null Tally? They are both talismans.

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    That's a lot of masters and almost no anti-magic. Some of the other posters have observed this as well - you'll need a lot more magic defence to be effective.

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    then where do i get it? adding lvl 2 sorceresses seems a bit sucky just to get 1 more dispel dice

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    you take a lvl1 with 2 dispel scrolls (in addition to any other models with the ring/seal/null talismans). if all you want is to protect yourself against magic.
    We don't know yet if the null talisman can be taken with other talismans. We have to wait foe a errata. The way my group plays is no I can't. You have to discuss this with your gaming group or your opponent if you want take the null talisman with other talismans.
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    that is what i want, i really dont find it very satisfying blowing my opponent away with magic!

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