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Ok guys, here's the list I devised for my tournament on this saturday, tell me what you think
10 Repeating crossbows 100
10 Repeating Crossbows 100
19 warriors 145
full command except musician
15 corsairs 165
w/ standard and musician
7 Shades 126
w/ great weps
5 cold one knights 175
15 Black Guard 195
15 Black Guard 195
1 Assassin 146
+1 hand weapon
rune of khain
1 War Hydra 175
Supreme Sorceress 405
Armor of Darkness (1+ save)
Black Amulet (4+ ward, when ever u deflect a wound u wound the attacker for 1)
Sorceress lvl 2 185
sacrificial dagger (shes w/ warriors)
Sorceress lvl 160
Total = 2250 points
Here's basic strategy. Supreme sorceress w/ PoD and 4 other spells, on flying mount so she can fly behind units and wreak havoc. And 1+ armor 4+ ward w/ woundbacks it will be hard for them to get her for the 405 victory points. I should wreak hell on my magic phase w/ 10 PD and PoD on all 3 mages. And 6 DD w/ 2 dispell scrolls as backup, and sac dagger on 1 sorceress. 2 units of 15 black guard as good anvils to block them from getting inside and hurting me, also stubborn LD9 2 attack 3 on champ isnt bad blocks of troops either. And odds are you pop out the assassin in the black guard unit when u need him to arrive, he has d3 + attacks all at 1+S=oponents T. Cold One Knights are a solid flanker unit and fast, and hydra is very strong. 20 shots ea from crossbows in the back, and shades can hide behind cover and work units over, and have great weapons incase they get charged. Corsairs are just decent and sometimes u put the assassin in them, good meat shields if opponent has shooty army cuz of sea dragon cloaks. What do you guys think?
Casters can't have armor. Pendant and Black Staff is a better set up. 2 PoDs and good protection against ranged attacks.
Drop the BG down to 12 and go 6x2, they can run around flanking and holding things up. Or, you can bump 1 unit up to 18, drop the other, and add the Hag Graef Banner and Crimson Death. Very effective anvil and good protection for your Sorceress.
Corsairs can go up to 18 (6x3) and add the Sea Serpent Standard.
Add more Warriors if you plan to sacrifice them.
Some Harpies or DRs would be handy for disruption, baiting, screening, and war machine hunting.
Oh ya, my bad, i forgot you can't wear armour on casters. What about magic weapons? Can they wield Lifetaker the crossbow?
EDIT: I tried some harpies but they seem to die very easily, no armor, and only LD 6 so if 2 die they can be gone for good. And if you charge anything that can shoot they just stand and shoot and rip u to shreds. They would be good if you could declare a charge while they are in soft cover, but otherwise you have to get within 20" and in LoS to the warmachine and they shoot them down before you can charge Atleast that was my experience with them, and they die vs. everything else in combat.
I'm not a fan of sea serpent banner because frenzy is too much of a liability in a tournament.
Also I don't have any Dark Riders unfortunately.
And for the standard of hag grief on BG, do I need to pay 14 to upgrade to a normal standard and then add on the magic standard, or can I skip paying 14 points for normal standard and just pay for hag banner?
Last edited by Tewl; March 8th, 2009 at 18:06.
Weapons are fine, Lifetaker is a nice weapon for a mounted Sorc.
Harpies are more for tying things up and screening, 55 points gives you 5 flyers and they don't take up a special or rare slot?! Awesome! If you want to actually kill enemy war machines, Shades w/ great weapons are awesome.
Stick that frenzied unit in the center of your army and use Harpies to screen to keep them from getting baited. 18 attacks from the unit is awesome.
You do pay for the Standard Bearer, who else is going to hold the Banner?
thx for all the advice. Here's what I changed the list to.
pendent of khealath
Sorceress (im thinking of sending this one w/ one of the basic lores out of the big red book, a protective/healer lore that I can cast before we clash in the middle to protect key troops and neutralize enemies rather than just hurling magic missiles. Because once she gets in combat she gets shut down, ill let my pegasus do most of the damaging spells, plus tome of furion and sac dagger gives her 3 spells w/ +1 PD on ea spell cast)
tome of furion
sacrifical dagger (w/ warrior block)
dispell scroll x2
1 war hydra
10 black guard
15 black guard
w/ great weapons
5 cold one knights
rune of khaine
I didn't find room for frenzy banner or harpies, but the corsairs are more or less expendable so I'm not too worried. This list looks pretty strong to me, what do ya think?
You can't have 2 arcane items, so give the Tome of Furion to your Supreme Sorceress. Also, give the Darkstar Cloak to your caddy instead of another dispel scroll. Go nuts on magic, it's fun.
Swap out the Knights for a Hydra and you can lose the 10 BG for 3 BG in the other unit, 5 Warriors, and some Harpies or Shades.