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Malus Darkblade 275
BSB, hvy armour, shield, sea dragon cloak and ring of hotek 140
Lv 2 Sorceress
Focus familiar and Darkstar cloak 185
19 Rep Xbow full command 215
29 Blk ark corsairs full command w. 2 hand weapons and sea serpent banner 340
5 Dark riders Herald and Musician w. rep Xbows (would it be worth giving them shields?) 131
9 Cold one knights full command w. standerd of slaughter 318
10 blk guard w. standard of hag graef 200
War hydra 175
1979 21 left i thought maybe another magic item for the bsb feedback pls
Last edited by alxus91; November 30th, 2010 at 23:03.
this is my first army list any advice would be apreciated
Unless you really have your heart set on him, I wouldn't try and use Malus for your very first list. I think you'd do better by pouring those points into upgrading the level 2 to a level 4 and beefing up other units. If you take the level 4, give her some protection like the PoK or the 4+ ward talisman.
(edit: it's not that I think Malus stinks, it's just I think you'll get a better feel for DE by foregoing special characters until later)
The sorc can't have 2 arcane items; ditch the FF and take the Tome if you stick with a level 2. Take the cloak if you go the level 4 route (or the dagger if you ever decide on taking spearmen). The cloak on a single level 2 won't do much since she only has 2 spells + PoD. There will be plenty of dice for her to use so the cloak doesn't add much (even with the added spell from the Tome).
The BSB has very little protection. BSB's have massive targets painted on them so you'd do yourself a favor by protecting him better. The RoH isn't as awesome as it used to be. Something like armour of darkness + crimson death is a good, basic build for a master on foot just to give you an idea.
Put shields on those xbows!
Do NOT put shields on the DR. It removes fast cavalry, which IMO is the best reason to ever take them.
I'd take any extra points leftover to beef up the black guard. Also, the ASF banner on black guard is only really useful against high elves now; their initiative is so high they'll be striking first most of the time. The banner of murder is a good choice there if you decide to change it up.
Put the ASF banner on the CoKs instead; it's much better than the standard of slaughter. The ASF banner is great for CoKs; it gives them some staying power in later rounds and it could give the cold one's re-rollable hits as well if you face foes like dwarfs or lizards.
Don't take the black guard champ unless you plan on giving him an item; or if you plan on putting a character in there. It's just personal preference, but I don't think the extra points are worth just 1 S4 attack.
Ya i was thinking i could get an awsome dreadlord or supreme sorceress for the same amount of points, i did like that i dont have to take stupidity tests tho. i play a high elf player and my black guard get slaughtered without asf. how about this
Dreadlord, celadors bane, Dawnstone, cold one, heavy armour, shield, sea dragon cloak 245
Lv 2 Sorceress, Tome of furation, pendant of kehleeth. 185
Master, bsb armour of darkness crimson death 155
19 rep Xbows w. shields 234
29 corsairs with sea serpent banner 340
5 dark riders with herald and musician 131
9 CoK full command asf 318
12 black guard w asf and musician and standard bearer
looks a lot better
I wouldn't really take caledor's bane on the DL unless you know you're going up against lizards or something...and even then. Whip of agony is a pretty good choice; 5 S5 armour piercing attacks.
the champ isn't really necessary on the DR
If this is your first list, how have your BG gotten slaughtered before???
You gave both the CoK and BG the ASF banner; I assume you really meant to give it to the BG. The banner of murder is a decent choice for the CoK if you feel the need to give them a banner, but I wouldn't really call it necessary. What I would do is take those points from the CoK banner, the DR champ, and the savings from changing the DL's weapon to get a unit of 5 harpies or possibly some shades if you have other left-over points.
I assume that floating 175 at the end is still the hydra.
yes it was the hydra, oh we just played a game without magic items or anything. what about just increasing the black guard unit?
alright thanks for your help