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Dreadlord on Dragon: A killer, but costs around 550 points with good equipment
Dreadlord on Dark Steed with PoK, hydra blade and potion of strength kills all for only 275 points.
Dreadlord with infantry: Keep him under 200 points with a great weapon in the black guard.
Dreadlord with COKs: An absolute killer regiment with hydra banner. Watch out for stupedity! :-)
Supreme Sorceress on Pegasus: PoK, Black Staff - we all know her. Costs around 400 points.
Supreme Sorceress with spearmen: Sacrificial dagger works wonders! Costs 300-350 points
Supreme Sorceress on Dark Steed: Can go with dark riders and cheaper than the pegasus.
A special Character!
I am not playing 2000 points yet, but I thought this was a good discussion. Personally I would think that a cheap and strong dreadlord on a dark steed would earn his points back more easely than the dragon lord. Apart from that a supreme sorceress with a sacrificial dagger seems intimidating!
So its up to you! I am looking forward to learning from your experience!
Easier only in the way that he is cheaper so doesn't have to do as much. Dragon Lords provide more than just "making back their points." There is the Terror disruption that he can cause as well as the huge amount of attention that he draws away from the rest of your army. He doesn't have to actually kill anything if he can cause a couple units to flee off the board and provide a distraction so other units can take out more than their cost in points.Personally I would think that a cheap and strong dreadlord on a dark steed would earn his points back more easely than the dragon lord
I also don't see the hype about making back your points. That would be valid if armies would line up across from each other one unit against one unit and charge forward to see who wins. That is not really the way the game is meant to be played. The synergy between units is much more important than any single unit making back their points in my opinion.
All that being said I usually stick with the cheap(around 200 points) Lord on foot in a unit. There are a few reasons for this. 1) It gives me more points for other things in the army. 2) Most people will build an army with Dragons/Monsters in mind. By not using one(or a Hydra usually) my opponent will have used his points inefficiently. 3) Many people see DragonLords as a crutch unit. Now I really don't care what people think about the army I choose to field but I consider it more of a personal challenge to not use it.
Terror really works wonders from my experience, but 320 points? I like a cheap hydra the better, because it leaves room for many more troops - which is generelly more fun to play with and against.
I'm with NecroNid on this one. The people that talk about judging a units effectiveness by how many points it makes back are missing the mark by a great margin. A units effectiveness can only be judged by how it interacts not only with the opponent, but also with your army. A one on one match up, or mathhammering, is pointless and futile in trying to measure the worth, value and effectiveness of the unit. Opponents react to different units, different situations and different players. I regularly use several units purely because of the psychological effect they have on my opponents - even if they don't kill a single model it is often worth it because they are keeping my opponents occupied and distracted.
That, and I find great pleasure in making units that are considered 'useless' a real threat. It makes the game interesting and infinitely more tactical.
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain (It's time to roll the dice)- Mattrim Cauthon
Well I voted the way I voted, but in retrospect I should have said "SPECIAL CHARACTEr" because when it is all said and done, is there a greater general of the DE's then Malekith himself?
Voted other gotta have THE Pendant
I voted dreadlord on dragon and special characters because
1 I like dragons so that explains the dreadlord
2 I have a malus darkblade army with all his retainers so malus is my general. The book just got me hooked on malus.
Daemonic cheese-how? Well, you would need to start with daemonic milk, i guess...
Voted for 200 Points Dreadlord.
Mine is around 200 Points, 215 to be correct. With Pendant, Soulrender and Armor of Darkness. 1+ AS, 2+ Wardsave, 4 Strengh 6 Attacks with -4 on Enemies Armor.. 15 Points, well, that´s not a huge amount of points more, but you get the 1+ AS at the start and don´t have to rely on Bloodarmor, and you get a magical weapon (much needed in DE armies) + another anti amor bonus (as well needed).
In a Black Guard he beats the hell out of everything.
Personally I play mine in a 30 Man Spearelves Unit, cause BG is awesome enough to handle everything and +6 passiv bonus in combination with the dreadlord is pretty evil, but the unit is not a nobrainer, you have to use it carefully and it will just reach its whole power in the hands of a experienced player, it´s not this child friendliy ASF-BG or Black Dragon which wins in almost every case even if handled wrong..
I guess I'm the only one that thinks the Witch King would make the best DE general??
This poll is a question of which general you prefer to use for 2000 point battles. I would not use the witch king - he seems all to expensive for a relatively small battle like that.