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hey im new and im wondering are the assassins good?......Because im trying to choose with dark elves and wood elves. The assassins are the ones making me like the dark elves.....and if they are good... it will help me in my choice...
It depends how you use them. if you have them sneak up on a war machine, you can ruin someone's day. Same thing with wizards. If you get lucky when you put the m in a unit (IE they get a good targed) Assasins can be a devastating suprise. Remember, Dark Elves require a considerable amount of strategy.
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IMO Assassins are very good IF you know how to use them agains certain enemies. If not then don't expect your assassin winning back anything near it's points until you've mastered how to use them.
Assassins arn't the matcho elf who none can hit and kills of enemies big or smal with ace. Assassins are very very VERY fragile. If you don't kill enough so that none can hit back at you then you assassin likely won't see another turn. There're very specified use for assassins just as [Grand Master Overcannon] said.
1. They're good at killing warmachine crew, enemy shooting, heroes and non fighting lords like most spellcasters IF used correctly.
2. If you opponent wasn't expecting an assassin then he might have to rethink his entire strategy against you (if the assassin is properly used).
3. Hinder enemies from marching, but I really find scouts and harpies better fit to that task.
To do that you will need lots of knowledge on your enemies (read their armybook until you know them like your own army). Experience in cons and pros of your enemies. And somehow figure out a pattern in your opponents strategy or a armys basic strategies. Then you should be set hehe... well what can you say DE are a advanced army to play with (if not the most advanced) since it requries lots of strategy thinking... and that's why I choose to play DE cause they're hard to play with... and ofcause they're evil elves >=).
but ofcause woodelves haven't been released yet so if I were you I'd do some heavy studying on DE now and study WE when you're released (likely Q3-Q4 2005) and decide then. If you really can't wait to play then choose DE since WE don't have a armybook yet and the exsample list (or whatever ppl call it) is unballanced IMO.
BTW welcome to the land of chill and LO.
Last edited by zhaf; May 19th, 2005 at 00:37.
Assassins are a tricky unit to set up in your army. Zhaf is right, you have to know how to use them and that only comes with playing LOTS of games.Originally Posted by The darkness
I find that the DE general also has to know what Temple of Khaine upgrade combo's to give him - seeing that he only gets 50 pts or so to play with.
You say that assassins are what makes you like the DE. Well, they are certainly not the be all and end all of the DE, they are a very complicated race to master - you need to apply your mind more when playing an elf army more than any other in my opinion.
Assassins shouldnt be the deciding factor on whether you like an entire army or not, they are a small element.
But, having said that, the models are cool and can be used quite effectively when you know what you are doing.
Have fun deciding which army to go for!
ok....when does the WE's come out...and i like the archers and range range fire of WE but are they as fast as DE...and hmm....and i like the fact that their dark elves.....but i dont know....cause ive been choosing between them...and i dont know yet but i keep saying im going to be WE...hmm and i was looking in the GW website and i can order from there....but you guys are saying they are coming out with a new book and everything..
I've heard rumors that WE should be released in september 2005. But no doubt the WE will have their first release before this years end.
Hm... it's hard to compare WE with DE when WE hasn't been released yet but taken from the rumors and the old WE then yes they're as mobile as DE cause they're elves and they have fast cavalary as core. Their flying unit are great eagles instead of harpies. But acording to the rumors you won't have a pure elf army, well you could have a 100% elf list if you want, but the rumors stronglly says that about half of the army are going to be elf units and half forest spirit units.
The main diffrence between WE and DE are that DE are more CC oriented than WE, and therefore more balanced IMO (magic, shooting, CC way balanced). They're more light too so don't expext to have any armour on your troops except for cavalary and characters.
WE are evil yes but in their own kind of way... I'd rather see them as extreamely isolated, terratorial tree huging kind of evil... most like the structure seen in a wolf pack. If you enter their terretory or hurt trees near them, they will kill you.
DE is darker and more kinda gothic-sadistic-anger-revange way of evil. They will most likely kill anyone that isn't dark elf... and sometimes they kill dark elf too. And sees other races as animals and slaves.
Edit: As GW UK has put up sneek peak of Wardancers and dryads and there've been WE models shown in various gamesdays I belive that WE will be released right after this summers campain Lustria. I think possible relase dates can be late august and during september.
Last edited by zhaf; May 20th, 2005 at 00:27.
Wood elves are awesome, they're better than Dark elves, Wood elves are gonna have some great new models and rules soon, assasins suck: T3 no armour only s4: they kill a 20 pt unit champion and die and they cost 100pts+.
In conclusion Wood elves rule
Dark elves especially assasins suck.
NOTE: This was posted by a friend of mine, I was dumb and left myself logged in!
Last edited by Spike_alike; May 29th, 2005 at 21:44.
hey no army suck... all have their pros and cons...Originally Posted by Spike_alike
and assassins arn't meant to kill rank and file troops... they're there to kill heroes and spellcasters. Sometimes specialized units.
If a general arn't afraid of assassins killing of heroes, spellcasters, warmachine crew etc etc then the general doesn't know DE at all.
Gah, I collect dark elves lol! I left myself logged in at a friends house(he plays wood elves) who must have posted thisOriginally Posted by zhaf
Dark Elves rock! Whilst I dont like the assasins, the rest of the army is very cool and fun to play
NOTE: Editing Friends Post
Doh! Just noticed the ''Super Beardy Death Ray'' also posted by my friend! I must look around for more annoying posts he may have done. I appolagise in advance for anything offencive / stupid he has done.
Last edited by Spike_alike; May 29th, 2005 at 21:56.