Monsters and Mayhem!

[Spike_alike]

Could it work? Im talking 2000 points decked out with beasts, cavalry and most importantly - a dragon. I dont have my army book on me, so I wont be posting a list yet (although I will edit one in very soon), but im thinking;

Dragon Mounted Lord with the Albion 'Powerfist' (rougly 600 points)
A Sorceress, Dark Steed, Perhaps with a Dispel Scroll(around 160+)
2 Units of Dark Riders, 5 strong each, Xbows, (250ish for both)
1 Unit of Crossbowmen, 10 strong (120ish, cant remember).
1 Unit of Harpies (unsure on points, i guess around 15
1 Unit of Cold one Knights, 5 strong. If points allow, maybe a noble will go with, but I doubt it. (250?)
2 Cold one Chariots, spears of course. (just under 20
1 War Hydra (22

So there we have a rough outline. Basically, the plan is to speed forward and take full advantage of terror, fear and combats that I am almost certain to win. Harpies will (try) to tear apart ranged units, and 'shield' the more important ones. The dragon will fly off to the flanks and try and seperate and scatter the opponant. He has got 6 turns to kill as much as possible, and hopefully attract some small arms fire.
The hydra will bimble alone with one chariot, and the CoKs with the other. These tag teams of destruction should be more than enough to break most units. The crossbowmen will probably lurch forward in the first turn, and then turn their fire onto the deadly ranged units of my enemy.

Its crazy, but it just might work. And it combines my two passions - warhammer and monsters! Anyone want to lend a hand?

Edit: Blah, i better post the list in the Army list forums when I get around to it. These new fangled forums are confusing me Its been awile.

[Manu_Forti]

Hmmm.. I think this list would do SOO much better if you boosted it up to 2500 and spent the extra 500 points totally on core troops.
Firstly because 2000 is too low to include a dragon..if it dies you have lost 1/4 of your army.
Secondly if you include more troops then you some-what cancel out the major disadvantage of taking alot of points heavy units. That being that you are horribly outnumbered.
Go to the army list section and check out my 2500 pt dragon list & you will see what i mean.

Basically keep your existing list but add this 500 points too it:

20 warriors with spears & shields, mucisian - 165
20 warriors with spears & shields, musician - 165
10-12 warriors with crossbows - 110-132

all that equals roughly 500. Ok so think about it. for 500 points you have just baught your army another *50* wounds.. that means 50 more things that your opponent has to kill.. and all for the same cost as your dragon lord!!
Having this nice extra 'buffer' of wounds in your army will mean that you can somewhat afford to lose them or afew of the Big things. Where-as if you take ALL big monsters and lose afew (esspecially the dragon) then you are screwed..
The only drawback to taking these foot-troops is that they wont keep up with all those faster units.. You would most likely have to Deploy them IN-FRONT of your big things. and use them as cover.. they will get shot/stabbed/beaten to death.. but while they are dieing your real bad-asses are marching up the field un-touched...this is horribly evil and cruel strategy..but lets not forget they dont call us DARK elves for nothing :shifty:
then just when your opponent is finished bragging about killing 40 guys..he will look down and realise you still have 2000 points worth of really nasty units knocking on his front door, no where to run and too late to shoot them too much..

Alternatively do the exact opposite - put them behind the big stuff.. Being slower they will fall behind, but if you lose afew of the big things then after a turn or 2 you will have 40-50 guys arriving to help.

Your only weakness is against magic. in a 2000-2500 you could expect alot of players to take 2-3 mages. So if you do only take ONE then the main reason for it will be the extra dispel dice. so be sure to give it that dispel scroll & seal of ghrond. (also Level 2)

Play around with both strategies and see what works. WHen playing a list like yours (or mine), be prepared to lose a fair few games while you figure out HOW to use it well.

I hope you have the patience of a stone. You will need it painting all those monsters lol
(dont forget to try to post pics in the DE gallery- that goes for everyone!- that gallery is so dead. Lets liven it up a little hey? :yes: )

Good luck

[Spike_alike]

Thanks for the help. I guess I will consider getting those warriors back out of the box then. I will however try the monster list though and see how it works. I hear a lot about people speculating it, but I guess I should try it for myself too.

And of course, once I finally get around to finishing my black dragon I will post it. Takes AGES to paint each scale though, and I need to find a suitable rider still.

[Manu_Forti]

As for what rider to use: If you baught the malekith set, i would probably just use him. But not AS malekith, just use him to represent a highborn. Most players agree that it's acceptable to use special characters to represent normal characters. So considering they normally LOOK better too, its never a bad idea.:shifty:

Otherwise use either a Cold one knight or Maleus Dark blade. (bcoz they are already in the pose you need)

Myself, i dont much like the look of the Dark elf black dragon. Im going to buy a high elf dragon and paint it as a black dragon, & put Malekith on it to represent a Highborn. I guess i will sell the Black dragon that he comes with, along with whatever rider the highelf dragon comes with lol.

[Spike_alike]

Personnaly I love my black dragon but hated the rider model. I think I will convert my own rider using a spare Cold One rider and that really long plastic warrior spear. that little dragon whelp the champion uses could be cool, representing his next hatchling (My highborn is a kind of dragon master)
It needs a unique paint job though, the Dragon looks boring in just black. I painted mine black with red scales and wing membranes and it looks awesome (if i do say so myself). As for the high elf dragon, I dont think it looks as ferocious as the druchii one.

as for patience, I prefer to paint 1000 points of monster than 1000 points of infantry. I guess that comes from paiting 4000 points of Dwarfs >.<

[Manu_Forti]

haha, thats alot of dwarves!.. Yeah i agree with you actually. Painting ONE detailed moster/character thing is harder than one infantry thing.. but when you have to repeat the infantry up to 100 times.. it gets a little frustrating, so in the end painting mosters is more enjoyable.
I also agree that the druchii dragon looks more ferocious. but it looks a little cartoony, i think the high elf one looks a little more realistic, and looks like it has a sublte, ancient, mythical/magical kind of strength, where as the druchii one just looks like brute strength and aggression.

Each to their own I guess

[Spike_alike]

Well, you get a plastic head in the Black Dragon box and the metal arms / tail are all optional and can be replaced by plastic parts. I *think* you can make a fully plastic dragon which is the same as the high elf one. I still have a plastic dragons head i dont know what to do with

[Manu_Forti]

So the high elf dragon is all plastic? thats awesome, i think it would be difficult to build with heavy metal parts. You would probably almost need to use those pin things GW sells. I dont think glue on its own would do the trick. Any advice on building them?

[Spike_alike]

Yeh, its all plastic. But also, Dark Elf Dragon = High Elf dragon. But you get seperate bits to make him a Black Dragon too.

No real advice on building it, it went together pretty easiliy for me.

[Manu_Forti]

Cool.
"Dark elf dragon = high elf dragon"..what? I dont understand what you mean.