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To me this item looks awesome for hunting down enemy generals and mages, I was wondering if people thought the same.
I'm thinking of giving it to a highborn and sending him out with a unit of DR. My only concern would be sending my own general off on his own relatively unprotected :/
Does anyone have any ideas as to how I could make this work? Or is the idea doomed to failure?
It seems like a nice sword, But cost to much for my taste. I guess you could give him that and some nice armour for protection, then put him on a flying mount and find the enemy general on the field. Although once he kills him then the sword is pretty much worthless, It isn't all that hard to put two wounds on another hero character that is in the army, although it could be usfull against monsters that are going around.
I would advice using the Draich of Dark Power, It's an item introduced from the cult of slanesh list, It gives a nice stength bonus and has killing blow for use against pesky characters, and doesn't cost nearly as much as the venom sword, so you can get some protection items.
i toy with the idea of using the venom sword with blood armor on a dark peg running about challenging...or manticor if the points are there.
Draich of DP is a very nice weapon at it's cost. makes it available to a daring noble. however, the venom sword has a very high chance of killing something outright and is not limited to 'man-sized' creatures like killing blow is.
look at it this way:
your opponent, chaos lord mounted on a dragon, unknowingly jumps at your highborne wielding Venomsword. you smack his T6 dragon and land a wound. that dragon has a 50% chance of living after that hit. a 75pt item that gives you a chance of instantly wiping 320pts is well worth it.
it's usefulness is beyond killing mean heros. it's a monster bane...use it accordingly.
I have to disagree with this. The sword grants no strength bonus & also therefore only a piddly -1 armour modifier.your opponent, chaos lord mounted on a dragon, unknowingly jumps at your highborne wielding Venomsword. you smack his T6 dragon and land a wound. that dragon has a 50% chance of living after that hit. a 75pt item that gives you a chance of instantly wiping 320pts is well worth it.
it's usefulness is beyond killing mean heros. it's a monster bane...use it accordingly
It would have a lot of difficulty wounding a dragon on 6's, then a 50% chance of armour save.
Not to mention that the dragon would be the one charging, and picking its teeth clean with your highborn's femor by the time it was his turn to attack..
It would only be good against weak & poorly armoured multi wound things. such as other elven lords.
If it granted a nice strength bonus too then it would be worth something. As it is though, the gauntlet of power is the way to go. Wounding a dragon or equivalent on 2's, with no save.
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It's no good for taking out fighty characters with - 1+ saves and ward saves mean you've got to be ridiculously lucky with it.
What it is good for is hunting ogre-sized units. Kroxigor, ogres, minotaurs and friends are the perfect target for the venom sword, and will die horribly to it with reasonable ease.
So it is a good weapon for a highborn with a specific role in mind - but in 2k games that's often a bit limited. It will only be worth it if you have those sorts of targets to take on - then it will be worth that huge points cost.
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Thanks for the replies so far
My initial thought was that it would be good at killing low armoured mages, like elven mages for example. Not a bad item if you know you're going to be facing a 300pt archmage^_^
But otherwise i agree it may be a little too situational for a generic tournament list
Yeah but he can pretty much still do that with a cheaper weapon like the crimson death or something. Mages arent really hard to kill.My initial thought was that it would be good at killing low armoured mages, like elven mages for example. Not a bad item if you know you're going to be facing a 300pt archmage^_^Exactly.But otherwise i agree it may be a little too situational for a generic tournament list
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An archmage has three wounds and a lord has four attacks, it may be 3s 2s but it's still not a cert by a long way.Originally Posted by Manu_Forti
Hmmmm, there was a post a while back on druchii.net where someone posted his experiences taking the venom sword to a tourney. I believe he faired ok, I just can't find the thread anymore.
Anyway his conclusion was that you need to *really* use the sword well. That means watching your opponent deploy, and noting which models could be safely dispatched. (I think it'd ideally be T4 or T5 models without much armor). He would then deploy his highborn especially to kill those models to actually make the best use of it. It was really interesting.
My own thoughts are just that the blade is so expensive, and S4 just won't really cut it on those larger T6 models that you would benefit most from killing. Anyway, for 15 points less you get the Gauntlet, which is probably more reliable at smashing things up.
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Let us not forget though, that the gauntlet is illegal in a lot of tournaments, so it is also not an option for a generic tournament list