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Does anyone play Dogs of War? I know people who start the armies and then abandon them because it's so hard to find a successful build.
Would it help if GW redid the range of models and crafted an army book?
I was wondering the same thing. I've just taken a dogs of war army to Carnage North and then the Student nationals. It was odd because out of 10 games I had to explain the doW rules to 9 opponents. It seems that very few people ever play them. Who can blame them? We have no crazy magic items, no really useful special rules and the model range is quite sad to see.
But I think that dow are a great army. I placed 3rd in the nationals and 9th in Carnage. Out of the dow list I think we have some great units. Duellists with pistols are excellent if used properly, as are marauders with great weapons. The sheer diversity of units, however overpriced they are in light of new releases, gives some fantastic scope for lists.
I personally love them from a modellers point of view. They're a blank canvas. I converted the entire army with a nipponese theme. You can see the pictures if you wonder around the carnage thread on warseer.
From a gamers point of view I think they are really satisfying. They are the underdogs (sorry for the pun) True, against dwarves you really struggle. But then imho the dwarf book was the biggest mistake gw ever made. Everyone expects you to lose with them and if you do, fine. But when you win - oh! I beat a wood elf player. first time ive managed it. it felt really good to take an army and rely on tactics and game play to win, rather than 15 special rules and overpowered untis and heroes.
I don't think dogs of war are dead. kids generally dont play them becasue they arnt shiny and are very unforgiving. but i reckon a lot of more experienced gamers take them for the challenge and the converting possibilities.
I dont know, maybe I'm wrong. I feeling really possitive about them because the tournament was literally yesterday. give me a few weeks of playing against dwarfs and i might have jumped ship!
I can't see GW releasing them again. I get the impression it was a pert project of the Perrys and now they have theyre own historical games group. In a way I suppose I dont want them to release models. A rules update, yes, but lets face it, GW will never do that without new models.
Theres nothing false about this monkey. I'm simian through and through.
My Nipponese Dogs of War Army:
I was on the GW Warmaster page the other day and noticed these new Araby guys. Pretty neat units with an arabian theme (flying carpets, elephant mounts, camel riders). I remember back in the day you could kinda guess what was coming next for Warhammer by what Warmaster had first, so I moved over to the Warhammer site and started poking around and noticed a new DoW unit of Araby horsemen. I dunno exactly how new it was. I'd never seen them before, and they didn't look half bad.
I like DOW, and play some variation on them occasionally. They suffer because they don't have magic items, and they don't have cheap core static combat resolution infantry. However, they do allow fun options like armies of ogres and cavalry, or dwarves and cavalry.
It would be very helpful if they actually had pike models in stores. I dislike ordering online (like to have something in hand when I give people money) and converting the pikes is more trouble than it is worth.
for the most part - they are dead. You have to special order the models (and then GW has to special make them because they don't have them in stock) Their rule book is severely outdated. Costs of troops are outdated and they have no magic items except for some of the RoR. The problem with the RoR is that they all have standards. 7th edition makes taking standards nearly obsolete. I take maybe 3 standards in most of my armies. I don't think they need to update the models. I think most real modellers are going to convert their own, but I do think they should lower the cost for a couple of the stock troops (like pikemen) add some unique magic items (but don't over do it) and fix the paymaster character. If you have to take a character, don't make him such a liability. At least let him contribute to the army somewhat.
I agree with them being more tactically challenging than the average army.