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I haven't used my dwarfs in a while but i thought i would play a few games with them for a laugh. Here's a list i came up with which varies quite a lot from lists i used to use. Anyway here it is, comments are welcomed
Runelord - The humble great weapon, Master Rune of Kragg the Grim, 2 Rune of fury, Master Rune of Gromril, Master Rune of Spellbinding
Thane - BSB, Master Rune of Valaya
Runesmith - Great weapon, shield, 3 runes of spellbreaking
24 Warriors - GW, shields, full command
24 Warriors - GW, shields, full command
19 Hammerers - full command, shields
20 Slayers - 3 Giant slayers, standard and musician
2 Bolt Throwers both with engineer
The idea is that i alter the number of slayers i play to adapt to the army i'm fighting. For example if i play an army which takes a lot of chariots then i would reduce the number of slayers and whack some runes of penetrating on my bolt throwers etc etc
I'm new-ish to dwarves, but here's some...
1. You have quite a lot of anti-magic, 7 DD, 3 scrolls, and the MR(s). Are you planning on facing all-mage armies? Or just REALLY hate magic?
2. I've read some of the 'command-on-slayers' arguments, and I think standards for them are a waste.
3. Does Malakai allow you to entrench things? Frequent argument at my club.
4. Maybe swap 1 unit thunderers for quarrelers (or miners) to take out opposed gunlines (empire). Looks like you are playing stand and shoot, and being outgunned hurts then.
5. 2300? why 2300? seems kinda random. Does your club play that point limit?
Hope that's food for thought.
Thanks for the replyWell if i'm playing an offensive magic army then i hinder their magic phase and if i'm playing a weak magic army then i shut it down completely. This army is +3 to dispel with 7 DD and three scrolls, which i don't think is over the top considering how much influence magic has on the game1. You have quite a lot of anti-magic, 7 DD, 3 scrolls, and the MR(s). Are you planning on facing all-mage armies? Or just REALLY hate magic?It's the usual number we play in the local campaigns5. 2300? why 2300? seems kinda random. Does your club play that point limit?
Malakai does not allow you to entrench. I don't even see how someone would think he could.
As for the list, you general doesn't have a ward save. Furthermore you do not have leadership 10, wich is a big asset for dwarfs. Lastly unless you field an anvil, I do not think he'll be point effective.
24 is awful big, even for warriors. 16-20 at the most, you opponent will simply choose to go after your weaker units for victory points
So do you think it would be a good idea to swap the runelord for a dwarf lord, reduce the number of warriors and use these points to squeeze in another runesmith with master rune of spellbreaking plus scroll? I really like my magic defence and i would like to keep it similar to what it is atm
been a while since i posted here so here i go.wwaaayyyyy to expencive. i mean the guy is in excess of 290 points!, you can get a solid dwarf lord and a runesmith for the same cost try this if you really want the same level of magic defence.Runelord - The humble great weapon, Master Rune of Kragg the Grim, 2 Rune of fury, Master Rune of Gromril, Master Rune of Spellbinding
dwarf lord - shield bearers, great weapon, rune of stone, rune of preservation. 196 points
runesmith - rune of stone, master rune of ballence, shield - 127.
asuming you drop the infantry units down to 20 strong (19 if you want to attach the smiths to them) you should still have 48 points left ( 63 if you knock one hammerer off to account for the shieldbearer lord).
out of this deal you gain an uber powerful leader unit. 1 less enemy powerdice. 7 dispell +3 scrolls.this guy is WWWAAAAYYYY to fragile. dwarf battlestandards are a key to the dwarven battle line and need some serious protection from the enemy. with a 4+ save he is too easy to victim of enemy characters and you can loose alot of points if he is killed (100 vitorypoints+ the price of the BS. what id recomend is dropping the master rune of valya all together and giving him a master rune of gromril and a rune of striking. with a 1+ save and ws7 he will be alot harder to pull down (most enemy heroes and ws6+ so ws7 gives you the edge regarding the enemy hitting you on 4's rather than 3's). alternatly if you really want to have the valaya standard give him a rune of gaurding for a 5+ ward.Thane - BSB, Master Rune of Valayaill agree with wolfpack here. they are really a bit too big. drop them down to 20(19 if you want to add characters). also -out of personal preference- id not give them great weapons. in most cases you will want the 3+ save most of the time (as chances are you are the one getting charged and struck first) and you want to preserve your ranks and troops (dwarves win through static combat res. if you don't die you don't give up combat res and your static combat resolution (+3 for ranks +1 for standard) should be able to get you through most combats until help arrives from your elite units (hammerers/slayers) this should also save you 40 points which is almost another boltthrower!24 Warriors - GW, shields, full command
24 Warriors - GW, shields, full commandid change one of these units to quarrelers then give them all shields. quarrelers may not be as impressive as thunderers but are a bit more useful for shooting at targets such as fast cavelry or enemy longbows where that extra range will count. also these units really need the shields to protect themselves. they are very expencive troops after all and light armour alone won't save them from enemy troops or cavlery that can get behind you.10 Thunderers
10 Thunderersboth good. though id make the hammerers 18 for a lord.19 Hammerers - full command, shields
20 Slayers - 3 Giant slayers, standard and musiciannot bad. but things are a bit underpowered. id try to get another warmachine in here. perhaps an organ gun or a cannon so you can deal with more heavy targets or skirmishers.2 Bolt Throwers both with engineer
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Thanks for the help guys, i'll give the list a try out soon(Y)