1000 Point Eldar List - Need Suggestions

[Scorpion_062]

It's been a long time since I've been on, so sorry if I break any rules in posting points or something (let me know and I'll fix it asap).

Ok, so I'm building my second Eldar army (my first is only 1000 points as well) and I need some suggestions. It's a stealth-themed army.

This is what I was thinking so far:

HQ:
Farseer: Doom, Runes of Witnessing
90 pts.

Troops:
Pathfinders (6)
144 pts.

Pathfinders (6)
144 pts.

Elites:
Striking Scorpions (7)
+ Exarch: Stalker, Scorpion's Claw
160 pts.

Fast Attack:
Warp Spiders (4)
+ Exarch: Surprise Assault, Dual Death Spinners
137 pts.

Heavy Support:
Falcon: Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon Up-Grade, Holo-field, Spirit Stones
185 pts.

Wraithlord: Bright Lance, Wraithsword, Flamer, Flamer
140 pts.

Total: 1000 pts.

Model Count:
Infantry - 21
Jump Infantry - 5
Vehicle - 1
Monstrous Creature - 1

I've also considered dropping the Wraithlord for a Harlequin squad (5 Harlequins+Troupe Leader+3 Harlequin's Kisses) in order to work in some anti-marine CC power, but I'm afraid that would leave me dangerously low on anti-tank capability.

Any ideas?

The only models I already have are the 12 Rangers/Pathfinders, so I'd be happy to listen to any suggestions reguarding the rest of my army.

Thanks

[Shiz_Vaerth]

I verse tyranids a lot so i noticed that you have very little horde killing power. What would you do against 64 S4 termagants and a couple of squads of genestealers? True your falcon could accomplish something while yur wraithlord goes carnifex killing, except that he'll probably be dragged down by genestealers before he can do anything. Hordes aside, your Spiders and scorpions are good, but they won't hold out forever, meanwhile the rest of your army has left your farseer and wraithlord behind.
I would replace the wraithlord for harlequins, but do not bother with the troupe leader, instead get a shadowseer or they'll be blown apart before they get to the enemy unless they hug cover (one of the bad things about shock troops, they attract a lot of fire).
You've sort of doomed yourself by limiting yourself to 1000 points and then getting two pathfinder squads, I would only get one even if I had 1500 points to spend.
But a good general should be able to do well with that list.

[Scorpion_062]

I will eventually be up-grading to a 1500 point, and probably 2000 point army. This is just a place for me to start.

I understand the problems with having 2 Pathfinder squads, but I was hoping that against horde armies, they would be able to effectively keep a squad or two pinned. However, I did notice that it seemed like I had a dangerously low model count, thats why I considered adding Harlequins instead of the Wraithlord. You think I should try to work in a Guardian squad?

As for the Shadowseer, I was planning on having the Harlies hitch a ride in the Falcon. Is that a bad idea? I've never used them before, so I don't know it that is effective.

[Exarch Thomo]

Originally Posted by Scorpion_062

It's been a long time since I've been on, so sorry if I break any rules in posting points or something (let me know and I'll fix it asap).

Ok, so I'm building my second Eldar army (my first is only 1000 points as well) and I need some suggestions. It's a stealth-themed army.

This is what I was thinking so far:

HQ:
Farseer: Doom, Runes of Witnessing
90 pts.
Drop runes of witnessing - not really needed.

Troops:
Pathfinders (6)
144 pts.

Pathfinders (6)
144 pts.

At 1000 points this is too few troops. Drop a unit completely and replace it with 10 Dire Avengers with an exarch, 2 shuricats and bladestorm - gives you more adaptability, manouverability and anti-infantry firepower.

Elites:
Striking Scorpions (7)
+ Exarch: Stalker, Scorpion's Claw
160 pts.

Fast Attack:
Warp Spiders (4)
+ Exarch: Surprise Assault, Dual Death Spinners
137 pts.

Heavy Support:
Falcon: Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon Up-Grade, Holo-field, Spirit Stones
185 pts.

Wraithlord: Bright Lance, Wraithsword, Flamer, Flamer
140 pts.
Drop the wraithsword and replace it with an eml or scatter laser - preferably an eml. Wratihsword, while looking cool, doesn't really add that much cc potential and the points would be better spent elsewhere.
Total: 1000 pts.

Model Count:
Infantry - 21
Jump Infantry - 5
Vehicle - 1
Monstrous Creature - 1

I've also considered dropping the Wraithlord for a Harlequin squad (5 Harlequins+Troupe Leader+3 Harlequin's Kisses) in order to work in some anti-marine CC power, but I'm afraid that would leave me dangerously low on anti-tank capability.

Any ideas?

The only models I already have are the 12 Rangers/Pathfinders, so I'd be happy to listen to any suggestions reguarding the rest of my army.

Thanks

I think you really need a few more bodies in there to deal with most everything - what you have just isn't hard enough by themselves.
I do think you need some close combat support, especially anti marine, but I would probably caution banshees over harlies - a unit of power weapon wielding models who strike first are going to kill more than 3 models armed with kisses - especially when you run a farseer with doom in close support.
Personally I would keep the wraithlord, because it draws a lot of firepower away from the rest of your army. If anything i would consider dropping the spiders to free up some points - they don't seem to fit with the rest of the army and are to small to go unsupported.

[Scorpion_062]

I definately agree that I need more bodies. I probably will end up cutting a Pathfinder squad until I get to 1500 points.

As for the Harlequins, I wanted to take them over Banshees because they fit the theme of my army better, however, I will see if I can free enough points to get all of them armed with Kisses.

Now for the Wraithlord, I will try to find enough points to get one with an EML/BL combo, and I'll probably wait until 1500 points to include Warp Spiders, as they are rather expensive.

Any other suggestions?

[Scorpion_062]

My Revised List:

HQ:
Farseer: Doom
80 pts.

Troops:
Pathfinders (6)
144 pts.

Dire Avengers (9)
+ Exarch: Extra Shuriken Catapult, Bladestorm
152 pts.

Elites:
Striking Scorpions (7)
+ Exarch: Stalker, Scorpion's Claw
160 pts.

Harlequins (5)
+ Troupe Leader: Power Weapon
+ Kisses (5)
148 pts.

Heavy Support:
Falcon: Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon Up-Grade, Holo-field, Spirit Stones
185 pts.

Wraithlord: Bright Lance, Flamer, Flamer
130 pts.

Total: 999 pts.

Model Count:
Infantry: 31
Monstous Creatures: 1
Vehicles: 1

How does it look?
I wasn't able to work in the extra 24 points I'd need for an EML. Any cuts I should make?
I'm still looking for suggestions, so if you think of any, I'd love to hear them.

[Exarch Thomo]

Maybe by dropping one pathfinder out of the unit (bringing it back to 5) and dropping the shuriken cannon upgrade on your falcon. That frees up enough points to allow you to put the eml on the wraithlord - which I think will offer you a lot better return than the suriken cannon on the falcon, at least at this level.
Edit: Sorry, just the dropping the pathfinder frees up enough points (i think).

[Scorpion_062]

Originally Posted by Exarch Thomo

Edit: Sorry, just the dropping the pathfinder frees up enough points (i think).

It does. I was also toying with the idea of dropping 2 Dire Avengers. Think that would work?

[Exarch Thomo]

I would drop the pathfinder over the 2 dire avengers. 6 pathfinders can't do anything that 5 can't do, but 10 Dire Avengers are a lot more effective than 8 (when Bladestorming that is 6 extra shots).

[Scorpion_062]

Originally Posted by Exarch Thomo

I would drop the pathfinder over the 2 dire avengers. 6 pathfinders can't do anything that 5 can't do, but 10 Dire Avengers are a lot more effective than 8 (when Bladestorming that is 6 extra shots).

True...
Thanks for your help.