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The Toon · January 7th, 2008, 06:14

Hq
Farseer x1
Doom
Fortune
Spirit Stones
Runes of Witnessing
Points: 140

Troops
Dire Avengers x9
Dire Avengers x9
Points: (Both squads together)216

Fast Attack
Warp Spiders x7
Points: 154

Heavy Support
Falcon x1
Star Cannon
Holo Field
Spirit Stones
Points: 185

Elites
Howling Banshees x10
Points: 160

Wave Serpant (dedicated to howling banshees)
Spirit Stones
Bright Lance
Points: 145

Total points: 1000

I plan this is to be hard hitting fast is all I really have to say.

frozencore · January 7th, 2008, 06:20

In 1000 points it might be best to only have one power on your farseer to save points. Your dire avengers need an exarch with bladestorm. Your warpspiders should have an exarch. That is just for starters.

tarzen · January 7th, 2008, 06:35

Bah, ignore FC suggestion if you wish, your list looks just fine. The plus side to it is decent model count, the down side is anti tank. Personally, I would swap out the falcon for 3 single vibro cannons, great for both pinning and anti tank, and leaves you enough points for either more DA or exarchs or what have you.

The exarchs CAN help, but cost you the place of 2 or 3 models...something that goes against MY playstyle. Bladestorm means one turn of fun shooty, non bladestorm means 2 turns. Not really that simple, but pretty close.

Ryiax · January 7th, 2008, 06:48

I like the look of it

and you can never ever go wrong with a unit of Warp Spiders

Play it before you change anything that always gives the best results and is a much better indicator of what (if anything) you need to change

Ry out
:drinking:

frozencore · January 7th, 2008, 23:28

A warp spider exarch costs less than two warp spider, has the same number of shots as two warpsiders and has better ballistic skill. Tarzen is right, it would be at the expense of .77 wounds to have your spiders like that, but the better BS is nice. Bladestorm is indeed expensive, but it gives you a lot of shots and can really help. If you can clear an area of bodies your avengers can stay alive with their poor defense. It is all about timing, and it certainly can hit hard. Anti-armor is needed depending on your gaming group. Dropping the falcon is an option, as it will free up a lot of points, but then your lone wave serpent is left to take all of the fire by himself.

tarzen · January 8th, 2008, 02:25

Frozencore is right with his statements, and sorry my post came across how it did, I just condone playing with what is enjoyable before too much math hammer. And my playstyle puts numbers over specialty.

Exarchs can add a bunch to the units. But they can also diminish their abilities by dragging down numbers too. Two sides of the same coin.

January 7th, 2008, 06:20	#2 (permalink)
frozencore Nightlord Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,776 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 78	In 1000 points it might be best to only have one power on your farseer to save points. Your dire avengers need an exarch with bladestorm. Your warpspiders should have an exarch. That is just for starters. __________________ WIP updates My LO Army

January 7th, 2008, 06:35	#3 (permalink)
tarzen Son of LO Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,037 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 80	Bah, ignore FC suggestion if you wish, your list looks just fine. The plus side to it is decent model count, the down side is anti tank. Personally, I would swap out the falcon for 3 single vibro cannons, great for both pinning and anti tank, and leaves you enough points for either more DA or exarchs or what have you. The exarchs CAN help, but cost you the place of 2 or 3 models...something that goes against MY playstyle. Bladestorm means one turn of fun shooty, non bladestorm means 2 turns. Not really that simple, but pretty close. __________________ My armies: 16,000+ of Eldar (only need flyers) 7,000+ of Nids (want heirophant) 6,000+ of Space Marines (need rever titan) 4,400+ of Cygnar (all models for the faction) 1,500+ of Legion (just started)

January 7th, 2008, 23:28	#5 (permalink)
frozencore Nightlord Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,776 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 78	A warp spider exarch costs less than two warp spider, has the same number of shots as two warpsiders and has better ballistic skill. Tarzen is right, it would be at the expense of .77 wounds to have your spiders like that, but the better BS is nice. Bladestorm is indeed expensive, but it gives you a lot of shots and can really help. If you can clear an area of bodies your avengers can stay alive with their poor defense. It is all about timing, and it certainly can hit hard. Anti-armor is needed depending on your gaming group. Dropping the falcon is an option, as it will free up a lot of points, but then your lone wave serpent is left to take all of the fire by himself. __________________ WIP updates My LO Army

January 8th, 2008, 02:25	#6 (permalink)
tarzen Son of LO Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,037 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 80	Frozencore is right with his statements, and sorry my post came across how it did, I just condone playing with what is enjoyable before too much math hammer. And my playstyle puts numbers over specialty. Exarchs can add a bunch to the units. But they can also diminish their abilities by dragging down numbers too. Two sides of the same coin. __________________ My armies: 16,000+ of Eldar (only need flyers) 7,000+ of Nids (want heirophant) 6,000+ of Space Marines (need rever titan) 4,400+ of Cygnar (all models for the faction) 1,500+ of Legion (just started)

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January 7th, 2008, 06:48	#4 (permalink)
Ryiax Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sydney, Aust. Age: 29 Posts: 175 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 49	I like the look of it and you can never ever go wrong with a unit of Warp Spiders Play it before you change anything that always gives the best results and is a much better indicator of what (if anything) you need to change Ry out :drinking:

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