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Old December 28th, 2006, 18:14   #1 (permalink)
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HQ:
Jain Zar (190 Points)

Avatar (155 Points)

Elites:
Striking Scorpions x10 (16
Exarch with Scorpion's Claw, Shadowstrike (47)

Howling Banshees x10 (16
Exarch with triskele (17)

Troops:
Dire Avengers x10 (12
Exarch with Diresword, Shuriken Pistol, Defend, Bladestorm (52)

Dire Avengers x10 (12
Exarch with 2 Shuriken Catapults, Bladestorm (32)

Pathfinders x10 (24

Fast Attack:
Vyper with Brightlance x2 (15

Heavy Support:
Dark Reapers x5 (175)

Fire Prism x2 (23


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Old December 29th, 2006, 02:54   #2 (permalink)
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im kinda confused when i look at your list. i get the blade storm avengers. they are your mid ground troops. they are few and not all that resillient. from an 1850 perspective infiltrating 1 squad makes 1 dead squad, the idea behind that statement is all of your opponents mid field elements and speed elements have a close target. the banshees need support end of story. ill asume jain zar will go with them, okay super! exarch delivery... the pathfinder are ok. i think you will get just as much use out of them if you split them up into two squads, in theory twice the chance to pin. vypers with brightlance are running a little high on the point scale for 1 shot, you do seem to lack anti tank though, so i supose they are forgiveable. your reapers are fine like that, they kill themselves some marines good. if you are goin to take prisms i suggest you get holofields on em, too good. i would suggest dropping the scorpions, i dont really see them fittin in with your list. oh and the avatar if your torn on adding another squad or something i strongly suggest you drop him too, hes good a big meany etc... but 1 model, that moves average speed. at this point level i see your army gettin shot to bits too easily. you're fragile yet dont have skimmers. i like the idears its got all the fun stuff, but i think you need to rethink a slightly more refined core of an army up, instead of gettin all the tasty bits first.

maybe give us some example of your planned tactics and strategies? that way i can visualize better what type of gameplay you forsee out of this list!

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Old December 29th, 2006, 11:11   #3 (permalink)
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Now, see because of your lack of waveserpents, your gona draw attention to your FP's, which you don't want.

If your gona field banshees give them a chance to live, give them a WS.

Secondly, you have spent a lot of points on pathfinders, these points could be spent so much more constructivly. Like more avengers, beef it out a bit, give it some substance.

Get them lances of them vypers, what a waste of points if I ever did see. They have a **** BS and are gona miss most of the time. Drop the vypers and get some other form of anti tank.

The scorpions look good, leave them in. Duno bout the avatar, maybe keep him, but if you need the points them drop him.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 19:32   #4 (permalink)
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Hmmm, well I kinda see your point with the waveserpents (but they only have armor 12), though Banshees and Avengers both have 4+ save, which is decent, and with fleet of foot they should be able to find cover... I kinda agree with your opinion on vypers (BS 3 yields 50% chance to hit, which means they arent gonna miss most the time, they are gonna miss half the time). Splitting the Pathfinders is a good idea. Perhaps make your arguments and criticisms more fact and statistic supported, instead of the crappy presentation you gave me. The way you write and suggest without explaining any reasons makes you seem like an idiot (not saying you are). The avatar is slow, however he has a 12 inch range attack, so he should become useful quickly. Plus he absorbs fire like crazy.
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Perhaps make your arguments and criticisms more fact and statistic supported, instead of the crappy presentation you gave me. The way you write and suggest without explaining any reasons makes you seem like an idiot

Well sorry for my help.

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