The Ulthwe Discussion Thread

[Salamander]

ok ok im starting to see it now. before i was having my council/spear in the gate coming out, but if i ahve them on the board witht he gate, and a guardian screen they would be able to survive ALOT of fiepower.

how many gates do u think would be goodfor 1500? 1 or maybe 2 to keep the oponent guessing...?

[Cheredanine]

yeah you got it,

at 1500 points I am starting to think 2 gates

[Salamander]

ok wat do u think of this list. its got enuf units on the board to be able to take some casulties and still put out some fire. the defender squad is a shield for the council. anything with a *** means its in reserve.

1500 Pts - Ulthwé Strike Force Army

1 Seer Council (HQ) @ 300 Pts

1 Farseer @ [126] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Fortune [20]
Wraithgate [50]

1 Farseer @ [76] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Fortune [20]

2 Warlocks @ [121] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Enhance [15]

1 Warlocks #1 @ [37] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Embolden [10]

16 Black Guardian Defender Squad (Troops) @ 209 Pts
Shuriken Catapult

1 Warlock @ [81] Pts
Wraithgate [50]
Conceal [20]

4 Dark Reapers (Heavy Support) @ 233 Pts
Reaper Launcher

1 Exarch @ [85] Pts
Missile Launcher
Fast Shot [20]

4 Dark Reapers (Heavy Support) @ 233 Pts
Reaper Launcher

1 Exarch @ [85] Pts
Missile Launcher
Fast Shot [20]

***9 Howling Banshees (Elites) @ 181 Pts
Power Weapon; Shuriken Pistol; Banshee Mask

1 Exarch @ [37] Pts
Executioner; Shuriken Pistol; Banshee Mask

***15 Black Guardian Storm Squad (Troops) @ 170 Pts
Shuriken Pistol & CCW (x13); Fusion Gun (x2)

1 Warlock @ [42] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Enhance [15]

***15 Black Guardian Storm Squad (Troops) @ 170 Pts
Shuriken Pistol & CCW (x13); Fusion Gun (x2)

1 Warlock @ [42] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Enhance [15]

Models in Army: 74


Total Army Cost: 1496

[Cheredanine]

OK mate:
HQ yes very good, I would possibly be tempted to add a warlock with a witch blade and no power so it has some abaltive armour, even for after it has fired the gates

Gaurdian defender squad
- get the numbers up to 20 if you can


Reapers: excelent, a little warry of how many points you are pending on them but they a good solid choice, particularly against 3+ Armour save armies

Banshees: yeah rock solid against 3+ saves, if you end up facing Tau or IG I would switch these for scorps. Not sure the exarch can take a shuken pistol with the executioner

storm guardian squads: solid, the more numbers here the better, but may be worth sacrifiing the odd one or 2 to get the numbers in the defender squad up to 20, but it is very back and forth depending on what army your opponent uses, how he plays it and the actual battle its self. Would like to see flamers in these units but you are suffering from a lack of anti tank. It may be better to bin one of the storm guardian units, equip the other with flamers, then take 2 smaller storm guardian squads, possibly without a warlock, but with 2 fusion guns in each, you may even be able to make 3 5 man squads with 2 fusion guns

[Salamander]

wat i did was this. took out a dark reaper squad, howling banshees. i added a 5 man 2 fusion gun team, spear of kahine and beefed the unit of 16 to 20 and added 3 d cannons. i needed the spear of kahine to keep my guardians from running and never ever regrouping due to tactical withdrawl. wat do u think?

or i could just take out reapers, beef up the unit and and 2 d cannons and the 5 man team. wat do u think would be better?


oh and i know she doesnt ahve a pistol but army builder puts it there for some reason :/

Elthir Corannir- Ulthwé Strike Force Army

0 Seer Council (HQ) @ 300 Pts

1 Farseer @ [126] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Fortune [20]
Wraithgate [50]

1 Farseer @ [76] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Fortune [20]

2 Warlocks @ [121] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Enhance [15]

1 Warlocks #1 @ [37] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Embolden [10]

19 Black Guardian Defender Squad (Troops) @ 233 Pts
Shuriken Catapult

1 Warlock @ [81] Pts
Wraithgate [50]
Conceal [20]

4 Dark Reapers (Heavy Support) @ 233 Pts
Reaper Launcher

1 Exarch @ [85] Pts
Missile Launcher
Fast Shot [20]

15 Black Guardian Storm Squad (Troops) @ 170 Pts
Shuriken Pistol & CCW (x13); Fusion Gun (x2)

1 Warlock @ [42] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Enhance [15]

15 Black Guardian Storm Squad (Troops) @ 170 Pts
Shuriken Pistol & CCW (x13); Fusion Gun (x2)

1 Warlock @ [42] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Enhance [15]

6 Black Guardian Crew (Heavy Support) @ 150 Pts
Shuriken Catapult (x6)

3 Support Weapons @ [90] Pts
D-Cannon

5 Black Guardian Storm Squad (Troops) @ 48 Pts
Shuriken Pistol & CCW (x3); Fusion Gun (x2)

1 Spear of Khaine (HQ) @ 196 Pts
Wailing Doom

2 Warlock Bodyguard @ [116] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Enhance [15]

1 Warlocks #1 @ [32] Pts
Witchblade (x1); Shuriken Pistol (x1)
Augment [5]

Models in Army: 80


Total Army Cost: 1500

thx u oh wise and powerful eldar guru.

[Xtremedoomaas]

can you guys help me decide between usf and ulthwe. which one do you guys think is more fun to play.

[Salamander]

it depends on wat u like! read the rules in the codices and decide for yourslef. we dont know wat u think is fun!

[H0urg1ass]

I hope this question hasn't been answered in this thread already, but I have a big question:

Is it possible to make a 40k in 40 minutes army with the Ulthwe rules? One guy at my store this weekend brought an Ulthwe bike army and slaughtered everyone with it, but then another Eldar player said that he would have brought his Ulthwe army too, but it wasn't legal.

He said it was because you HAVE to have a farseer and farseer's have 3 wounds, which is more than is allowed in 40k in 40 minutes.

Is this true?

[Xtremedoomaas]

he can still do it he just cannot use a farseer, when i played ork i wasnt allowed to use a warboss and they have 3 wounds and it says you must always use a warboss.

[strYker]

This may clear some stuff about it, i was confused too: http://forum.librarium-online.com/index.ph...1&st=&p=&#entry
its basically the same thing with warboss and farseer.