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Long_Shot · November 11th, 2003, 20:15

Okay, you are hereby forbidden to even think of USF until you have the codex. Enhance ISN'T CUMULATIVE. Trust me, a GrandMaster geared up correctly will roll over a Spear of Khaine with no apparent effort. And Salamander, some bad news. Sit and Shoot don't work on DH. We can weather almost any weapon without any apparent effort, and you can meat shield some Inquisitorial Stormtroopers for your bigger badder units. And if you get past them, there's shrouding. Then the shweet armour.

(Cannot spell name) Don't be trash talkin' at people. You don't even have a single miniature yet, or even the Codexes. Also, don't forget how many people type fast and don't go through and edit out all mistakes. So, cut some slack for these people. AND! Enhace isn't cumulative, and it can only take it up to 10. Then Grimoire of True names comes in, and the Avatar is screwed anyways.

Saruman_II · November 11th, 2003, 20:53

personally, the avater is a ball of shite because it is a bullet magnet, costs too many points and will be brought down in like 3 rounds! especially with SM, DH, Tau and ppl with hardcore killing guns.

(cant spell name) u r callin me a noob (HAHAHA sue me i just used webspeak!!!!!) ... when you buy the codex, read the REAL rules and then stop slagging people off, THEN, my friend, THEN you have the right to call ME a noob, even though im not. Even then it will still be wrong.
NOTE: everything in red had nothing to do with the topic, and everyone plz avert your gaze and read the relevent parts. Ok? so nobody can accuse me of Firefighting.

Squirrel · November 11th, 2003, 21:00

Same goes for you, too. The Avatar is a supporting unit, like many things in the Eldar army list. If he's in the webway, he won't get shot, so you bring him up to the front where guns don't make much of a difference, and boom. That's why USF has a Spear of Khaine. When you're on the front lines, 3 rounds is a long time to do some damage. And you're as much of a noob as you say I am. You need to read the rules too, before you give advice. Not too long ago, you didn't seem to think the Avatar was such a bad idea. Bloody conformist.

MasterBelial · November 11th, 2003, 22:23

Just a friendly warning before things get out of hand. Please be civil.

Mr Shadow · November 12th, 2003, 10:55

Good call skip.........some of these cats seem a little up tight. Chill Winston....dont get worked up over any Eldar subjects.........their not worth it.

Ave Imperitor

Long_Shot · November 13th, 2003, 01:23

But the Spear of Khaine has one bad restriction. You have to start with your HQ on the table, which means you would need to take a Seer Council anyways.

Seer of the Web · November 17th, 2003, 05:04

I havent really looked into USF *too* much, but i think i have a reasonable idea.. but its kinda pricey and maybe a little to voulnerable... but i think it may work...
By the way this is for getting into CC like against tau.. dont do it on DH or whatever...

So it goes like this: You start the game with 3 jetbikes and a warlock with a wraithgate... they run up as far as they can.. 18", or 12 then drop the gate. Its your choice, this may be a waste of points, but the idea is to get your warlock killed close to the enemy, or get close and drop it, so you can deploy and get into CC with your enhanced stormies and MURDA those clumsy tau..!!

You can fill your other points with whatever you want.. it seems like a good idea to have some strong support gunz with a farseers guide and a meat shield of defenders... but im gonna leave it open for flexebility :w

Hopefully this will suprise your enemy and they will be too out of position to react.

Maybe it will work.. any suggestions?

Salamander · November 17th, 2003, 05:49

never thought of that....interesting.

Saruman_II · November 17th, 2003, 17:18

so, can either a farseer OR a warlock have it? i was sure only a farseer could carry the wraithgate- if so, it would make the plan all wierd cos farseers cant use jetbikes. If im wrong, its a very good idea!

Squirrel · November 18th, 2003, 01:23

Saruman, you tard. We went over this in another thread. Warlocks can take the wraithgate, but a model on a jetbike (e.g. a warlock on a jetbike) can't. I suggested the same thing, and Longshot informed me of the rules.If you're going to call people noobs, don't be one yourself. You're wondering about rules, and telling me to buy the codex. That, my poor sap, is what is called hypocrisy. So when YOU buy the goddamn codex and read the real rules, you can tell me to do the same thing, *****.

Again, beings with an IQ above 70 (Not you, Saruman), note that red text does not apply to you and is completely off topic. That is all.

November 11th, 2003, 20:15	#21 (permalink)
Long_Shot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 75	<a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outgoing/http_d1_openx_org_ck_php_n_a83f474f_amp_cb_46587945173');" rel='nofollow' href='http://d1.openx.org/ck.php?n=a83f474f&cb=46587945173' target='_blank'><img src='http://d1.openx.org/avw.php?zoneid=22572&cb=46587945173&n=a83f474f' border='0' alt='' /></a> Okay, you are hereby forbidden to even think of USF until you have the codex. Enhance ISN'T CUMULATIVE. Trust me, a GrandMaster geared up correctly will roll over a Spear of Khaine with no apparent effort. And Salamander, some bad news. Sit and Shoot don't work on DH. We can weather almost any weapon without any apparent effort, and you can meat shield some Inquisitorial Stormtroopers for your bigger badder units. And if you get past them, there's shrouding. Then the shweet armour. (Cannot spell name) Don't be trash talkin' at people. You don't even have a single miniature yet, or even the Codexes. Also, don't forget how many people type fast and don't go through and edit out all mistakes. So, cut some slack for these people. AND! Enhace isn't cumulative, and it can only take it up to 10. Then Grimoire of True names comes in, and the Avatar is screwed anyways. __________________ If a tree falls in the forest, and it lands on a mime, does anyone care?

November 11th, 2003, 20:53	#22 (permalink)
Saruman_II Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Abyss Posts: 438 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 75	personally, the avater is a ball of shite because it is a bullet magnet, costs too many points and will be brought down in like 3 rounds! especially with SM, DH, Tau and ppl with hardcore killing guns. (cant spell name) u r callin me a noob (HAHAHA sue me i just used webspeak!!!!!) ... when you buy the codex, read the REAL rules and then stop slagging people off, THEN, my friend, THEN you have the right to call ME a noob, even though im not. Even then it will still be wrong. NOTE: everything in red had nothing to do with the topic, and everyone plz avert your gaze and read the relevent parts. Ok? so nobody can accuse me of Firefighting. __________________ FROM THE BOOK OF THE IMPERIUM: 1. Thou shalt not go on a panty raid in the Adaptus Soritus temple. 2. Thou shalt not flirt with Howling Banshees. They are the enemy. 3. Thou shalt not refer to Battle Sisters as Bolter Biatches 4. Darth Vader isn’t the son of Abaddon 5. Thou shalt not reassemble a Necron into a washing machine

November 11th, 2003, 21:00	#23 (permalink)
Squirrel Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 818 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 77	Same goes for you, too. The Avatar is a supporting unit, like many things in the Eldar army list. If he's in the webway, he won't get shot, so you bring him up to the front where guns don't make much of a difference, and boom. That's why USF has a Spear of Khaine. When you're on the front lines, 3 rounds is a long time to do some damage. And you're as much of a noob as you say I am. You need to read the rules too, before you give advice. Not too long ago, you didn't seem to think the Avatar was such a bad idea. Bloody conformist. __________________ OMFG1337!!!!111one

November 11th, 2003, 22:23	#24 (permalink)
MasterBelial Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Norway Age: 31 Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 89	Just a friendly warning before things get out of hand. Please be civil. __________________ Master Belial 'But for corruption thou hast made Belial, an angel of hostility. All his dominions are in darkness, and his purpose is to bring about wickedness and guilt. All the spirits that are associated with him are but angels of destruction.

November 12th, 2003, 10:55	#25 (permalink)
Mr Shadow Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wales Age: 26 Posts: 372 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 77	Good call skip.........some of these cats seem a little up tight. Chill Winston....dont get worked up over any Eldar subjects.........their not worth it. Ave Imperitor __________________ A Rhino? SLOTH!

November 13th, 2003, 01:23	#26 (permalink)
Long_Shot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 425 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 75	But the Spear of Khaine has one bad restriction. You have to start with your HQ on the table, which means you would need to take a Seer Council anyways. __________________ If a tree falls in the forest, and it lands on a mime, does anyone care?

November 17th, 2003, 05:04	#27 (permalink)
Seer of the Web Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 74	I havent really looked into USF too much, but i think i have a reasonable idea.. but its kinda pricey and maybe a little to voulnerable... but i think it may work... By the way this is for getting into CC like against tau.. dont do it on DH or whatever... So it goes like this: You start the game with 3 jetbikes and a warlock with a wraithgate... they run up as far as they can.. 18", or 12 then drop the gate. Its your choice, this may be a waste of points, but the idea is to get your warlock killed close to the enemy, or get close and drop it, so you can deploy and get into CC with your enhanced stormies and MURDA those clumsy tau..!! You can fill your other points with whatever you want.. it seems like a good idea to have some strong support gunz with a farseers guide and a meat shield of defenders... but im gonna leave it open for flexebility :w Hopefully this will suprise your enemy and they will be too out of position to react. Maybe it will work.. any suggestions?

November 17th, 2003, 05:49	#28 (permalink)
Salamander LO Zealot Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: western MA, USA Posts: 1,166 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 79	never thought of that....interesting. __________________ <insert witty remark here>

November 17th, 2003, 17:18	#29 (permalink)
Saruman_II Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Abyss Posts: 438 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 75	so, can either a farseer OR a warlock have it? i was sure only a farseer could carry the wraithgate- if so, it would make the plan all wierd cos farseers cant use jetbikes. If im wrong, its a very good idea! __________________ FROM THE BOOK OF THE IMPERIUM: 1. Thou shalt not go on a panty raid in the Adaptus Soritus temple. 2. Thou shalt not flirt with Howling Banshees. They are the enemy. 3. Thou shalt not refer to Battle Sisters as Bolter Biatches 4. Darth Vader isn’t the son of Abaddon 5. Thou shalt not reassemble a Necron into a washing machine

November 18th, 2003, 01:23	#30 (permalink)
Squirrel Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California, USA Posts: 818 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 77	Saruman, you tard. We went over this in another thread. Warlocks can take the wraithgate, but a model on a jetbike (e.g. a warlock on a jetbike) can't. I suggested the same thing, and Longshot informed me of the rules.If you're going to call people noobs, don't be one yourself. You're wondering about rules, and telling me to buy the codex. That, my poor sap, is what is called hypocrisy. So when YOU buy the goddamn codex and read the real rules, you can tell me to do the same thing, *****. Again, beings with an IQ above 70 (Not you, Saruman), note that red text does not apply to you and is completely off topic. That is all. __________________ OMFG1337!!!!111one

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