There is a point in embolden if you are playing the strike force because of the tactical retreat rule, you want to aviod that or half your guardians have been wasted and as for the seer council that is too expensive and I mainly use that to guide bs 3 things since there aran't many things like that in the strike force I like to benefit from the spear of khaine instead.There is a point in conceal in the seer council against daemonhunters who ignore inv saves with phsycannon rounds but don't ignore cover saves.holy crap when will ppl get this through there heads????

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