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Battle-Brother Wags · May 8th, 2007, 14:53

Forgive me if this has been discussed to death before, but in the new eldar codex it makes quite plainly that the heavy weapon platforms don't count as anything. You can't draw line of sight to them or use them in terms of range, etc, and you can even put them in transports now.

So the question is why pay the money to get them? I modeled a scatter laser onto a guardian model and it looks awesome. Especially because the guardian model is a girl, so its completely ridiculous, in a good way. Why not just have the weapon modeled on one guardian, designate another guardian (in some way viewable on the model) as the second operator, and there you go.

As it is, it seems like actually having the heavy weapon platform model on the board would just get in the way.

$ick · May 8th, 2007, 15:00

ehh, good point.

Anyone wanna buy some weapon platforms?

Cypher_Redeemed · May 8th, 2007, 15:36

whys it so ridiculous that its a girl model?

Did you mount it on the shoulder or something I d like to see pics. I fiels the platforms cause I like the way they look but thats jut me I simply remove them when I get into combat.

Y'he Sha'is · May 8th, 2007, 16:48

I played against Wags and his female guardian carrying the scatter laser. It's a great idea, nice model, and really simplifies the whole gameplay (shooting and CC). I reminds me of IG and the huge base for the heavy weapons. I don't understand why GW would say, "You really need these models, but in no way do they have any bearing on the game."

It's actually a neat model that looks relatively sleek considering that she is carrying a heavy weapon almost as big as she is. The scatterlaser is huge and looks awefully heavy, and you can just imagine the lady inside of the suit laughing as she just shoots Space Marines down in droves.

Tex, anyone?

Battle-Brother Wags · May 9th, 2007, 13:03

I was just waiting for someone to get offended concerning the "ridiculous" comment. Not ridiculous in a "women shouldn't be toting guns" but ridiculous in the sense that eldar are supposed to be so refined, fragile, sleek, etc, and I would assume the females even more so, but here I have a female eldar just positively mowing down the enemy with a scatter laser that is actually longer than she is tall and probably (if both were real), a good deal heavier. . . It just adds a very "if John Wayne had access to a SAW" aspect to eldar :-)

Rork · May 9th, 2007, 13:20

If I had the option of having a remote controlled caddy for a 30kg weapon, I think I'd use it too.

That's the whole point of being superior - Life (and war) is made easier*.

*I just hope they have wireless networks that aren't a pain in the backside

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Fuzzy Wumpus · May 9th, 2007, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rork

*I just hope they have wireless networks that aren't a pain in the backside

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They're still working on that one. How else will Yriel download his naughty pictures?

Andusciassus · May 9th, 2007, 14:29

Do eldar still have heavy weapon teams as heavy support?
Then the rules for artillery is a good reason to have them modeled separately.
If they are only used in guardian units...

Rork · May 9th, 2007, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andusciassus

Do eldar still have heavy weapon teams as heavy support?
Then the rules for artillery is a good reason to have them modeled separately.
If they are only used in guardian units...

Support weapons are completely different. Those models aren't representations, they're artillery.

Plague_00 · May 10th, 2007, 02:42

hey can you tell us which model parts were donated for your "girl with gun" and how you got them to fit it sounds really cool

oh and as for the platform it's there CUZ IT LOOKS COOL PSYKE!! nah really wer'e only str 3 like guard wer'e not strong enough to carry our heavy weps all the time

May 8th, 2007, 14:53	#1 (permalink)
Battle-Brother Wags Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 44	Why even have weapon platform models? <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outgoing/http_d1_openx_org_ck_php_n_a83f474f_amp_cb_46587945173');" rel='nofollow' href='http://d1.openx.org/ck.php?n=a83f474f&cb=46587945173' target='_blank'><img src='http://d1.openx.org/avw.php?zoneid=22572&cb=46587945173&n=a83f474f' border='0' alt='' /></a> Forgive me if this has been discussed to death before, but in the new eldar codex it makes quite plainly that the heavy weapon platforms don't count as anything. You can't draw line of sight to them or use them in terms of range, etc, and you can even put them in transports now. So the question is why pay the money to get them? I modeled a scatter laser onto a guardian model and it looks awesome. Especially because the guardian model is a girl, so its completely ridiculous, in a good way. Why not just have the weapon modeled on one guardian, designate another guardian (in some way viewable on the model) as the second operator, and there you go. As it is, it seems like actually having the heavy weapon platform model on the board would just get in the way. __________________ "There will never be enough peace in the universe unless first there is enough war." - Farseer Eleuflin

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Cypher_Redeemed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Massachuesetts,USA Age: 20 Posts: 390 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 52	whys it so ridiculous that its a girl model? Did you mount it on the shoulder or something I d like to see pics. I fiels the platforms cause I like the way they look but thats jut me I simply remove them when I get into combat. __________________ "They shall all taste OBLIVION!,.....which tastes like Red Bull, which is disgusting."

May 8th, 2007, 16:48	#4 (permalink)
Y'he Sha'is Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Worcester, MA Age: 30 Posts: 638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 50	I played against Wags and his female guardian carrying the scatter laser. It's a great idea, nice model, and really simplifies the whole gameplay (shooting and CC). I reminds me of IG and the huge base for the heavy weapons. I don't understand why GW would say, "You really need these models, but in no way do they have any bearing on the game." It's actually a neat model that looks relatively sleek considering that she is carrying a heavy weapon almost as big as she is. The scatterlaser is huge and looks awefully heavy, and you can just imagine the lady inside of the suit laughing as she just shoots Space Marines down in droves. Tex, anyone? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] "Listen up you primitive screwheads ... see this ... this is my BOOM-stick!" - Ash "I told you, it's not Pink! It's Light Red!" Donut on his new power-armor.

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Battle-Brother Wags Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 44	I was just waiting for someone to get offended concerning the "ridiculous" comment. Not ridiculous in a "women shouldn't be toting guns" but ridiculous in the sense that eldar are supposed to be so refined, fragile, sleek, etc, and I would assume the females even more so, but here I have a female eldar just positively mowing down the enemy with a scatter laser that is actually longer than she is tall and probably (if both were real), a good deal heavier. . . It just adds a very "if John Wayne had access to a SAW" aspect to eldar :-) __________________ "There will never be enough peace in the universe unless first there is enough war." - Farseer Eleuflin

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Andusciassus Librarian from Hell Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ronneby (Sweden) Age: 36 Posts: 3,919 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 122 Total Awards: 2	Do eldar still have heavy weapon teams as heavy support? Then the rules for artillery is a good reason to have them modeled separately. If they are only used in guardian units... __________________ Current projects: Nurgle Space Wolves

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$ick Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 259 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 48	ehh, good point. Anyone wanna buy some weapon platforms?

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Plague_00 Son of LO Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pyromania Age: 22 Posts: 2,273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 54	hey can you tell us which model parts were donated for your "girl with gun" and how you got them to fit it sounds really cool oh and as for the platform it's there CUZ IT LOOKS COOL PSYKE!! nah really wer'e only str 3 like guard wer'e not strong enough to carry our heavy weps all the time __________________ "take my love, take my land, take me to where i cannot stand, i don't care i'm still free you can't take the sky from meee" ;- firefly "i'm gonna grant you your greatest wish i'm gonna show you a world without sin" ;- serentiy "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar" ;- serenity

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