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in my 2k army list i am not sure wheather to have greatswords or flagellents?
They are both great units, so why not take both! :party:
They serve rather differnt purposes. What else do you have in your army?
If you have the points spare (as i do not know your current list / personal playing preferences, etc )
take both like Stonehambey has said. If not, my personal favourite is Greatswords as my 2k list isnt normal with a hardy unit of them, however, like rolly has said they are used for different purposes. If you can give us a bit more info perhaps we could more adequately help you.
But personally i take GS over Flaggies as they do more damage and a safer place to put characters to increase potency.
Personal Favourite is 25 GS with Lvl 1 Wiz with Lore of Beasts who casts Bears Anger on my Captain BSB with Griffon Standard. If u can get the spell off its funny to watch a BSB with no items demolish a unit single-handedly.
I think that both units have amazing potential but definately work differently. Flaggelants NEED to get the charge if you want to blow something away, otherwise they will just die and rarely will they get a chance to strike back. Sure, Unbreakable is amazing but thats only if you have something to flank with. Which is why the Great Swords do that a bit better I think because they have good armour and WS and are stubborn and will get an attack or two in that will chop some guys up. However, they are probably going to be alot more expensive too because if you want full potential, you will want to take detachments and a Warrior Priest (because it sucks to have a bad roll that turn you charge). Thats my two cents.
Depends on how big Flagellant-unit you're going. If you would have some, you could use "The End Is Nigh!" to get at least Hate, which will give you re-roll on To Hit - that combined w/ Two Strength Five Attacks at Charge you would have a good chance in getting something done. But, Charge and First Round of Combat is crucial for you. If you add a Warrior Priest of Sigmar to the unit you don't need to sacrifice to get the Hatred.<br/>
You can also get Unbreakable Greatswords w/ Hatred if you use a Warrior Priest of Sigmar right. So I'm saying that you can use everything if you have a Warrior Priest!
Greatswords all the way.
Last edited by NewJerseyMan; September 2nd, 2008 at 22:38.
Flagellants play the same role as slayers, and are very annoying, especially as unlike the tarpit units of Undead armies, they don't crumble...
Frankly, I would go the route of flagellants, if a choice is required, because they bring something to the Empire army that it lacks - the ultimate tarpit unit. They are unbreakable, will not auto-flee when outnumbered and defeated by fear causers and are otherwise pretty good at holding most enemy units in place, as long as you have a decent sized unit to begin with.
Sure you can expend points on e.g. teh Griffon standard, or have a massively expensive unit of Greatswords with a warrior priest, but I actually question wether you have to have flagellants charge - I see them as a means to prevent that frenzied unit of Knights of Blood Keep or Khornate Chaos Knights rolling over your entire battleline (which they will...)
Putting flagellants at a flank, you can be sure that anny attempts to roll down your line will be reisted at least long enough to bring forces to bear. Putting in the centre of a battle line means that you could invite charges and make decent flanking opportunities with your own (relatively slow) cavalry or rank and file units.
They are also a psychological effect - no sane general wants his best elite unit to spend the entire battle chopping down half crazed lunatics, so will force him to give these nutters a wide berth with combat units. They can thus be used as a rolling piece of terrain.