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I've been playing empire (as well as several other armies) with proxy models for some time now and really think the empire's style suits me. The use of big blocks, the full range of lores, the overall versatility, and of course the detachment rules all make for a fun army to play that seems pretty competitive. My only beef is that the army seems boring from a conversion and painting standpoint.
I can generally come up with some cool ideas for just about any army, but nothing is coming to mind. I've seen some nice paint schemes, but no one is really doing too much to move off the beaten path, and I can't blame them as the army just doesn't seem conducive to that sort of thing.
Thus far my only ideas are these:
Steam Punk- lots of gadgets and clockwork warmachines with a drab paint scheme
Ultramarines- steal the blue/yellow color scheme and their iconography (ie eagles)
Crusader- religious army with crossbowmen behind pavases and knights with red crosses
Undead- gank a bunch of VC and TK models and give them empire weapons
Dragonslayers- mercenaries that hunt monsters, adorned with horns and barbed weaponry and armor
Eastern- go middle/far east themed, but this would likely mean non-GW models
Dark- pale skinned troops in black with dying grass on the bases and evil wizards, purple used spareingly for contrast
As far as individual units I have some cool ideas, but I want the army to feel like a whole rather than a collection of cool individuals wearing the same colors. At the same time, many ideas like the crusader or steam punk would mean boring individual models with lots of browns and greys. Any ideas?
i think a really gothic, gritty dark empire force would look great. conversion stuff could be related to that, heads on stakes, perhaps some dark religious iconography, def some flagellents and warrior priest.
i def understand. hmm, what kinda empire list are u thinking of using? that may give me some other idea as to possible themes.
Go Ulrican!! The Cult of Ulric and Army of Middenland rules are still available on the GW website (on the UK site at least), in the Empire Archives, but a themed standard Army Book force would still be cool.
The God of Wolves, War and Winter calls to you! Toss aside Greatswords, use Teutogen Guard! Forget bog-standard Knightly Orders, use the rock-hard, helmetless Knights of the White Wolf! Give all your men Wolf pelts, let hammers and axes adorn your warriors! Forget swordsmen, for the sword is not a holy weapon of Ulric. Use Axes and Great Hammers! Units of skilled Axemen shall march forth from Middenland under your blue banners, and the victory shall be great!
Take the indomitable, one-eyed Boris Todbringer, Elector Count of Middenland, and let your foes quail in fear!
Follow the way of the God of Wolves, War and Winter, my friend!
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC
Interesting. I had not looked over this list until now. The idea of a late Dark Ages/Norse sort of look is appealing, but they seem to be lacking much of what I like about the Empire. I don't see hardly any long range options. I like the cheap, customizable core units, but I'm not sure they make up for a lack of detachments. Also, a lack of cheap plastic models and battalion boxes would make the army a bit pricier, not to mention I'd need to buy more low point cost models. Cool idea, but I'm just picky, I guess.
On a different note, does anyone have any experience with making pavises on Warhammer models? I rather like the idea of crossbowmen with pavises regardless of whether I go crusader themed or not (probably not.) I'm referring to those giant wooden shields that crossbowmen and more rarely bowmen would duck behind when reloading. They were like personal walls they could carry when not fighting. I'm thinking the models that have their weapons pointing up could be converted to be ducking and reloading.
Perhaps blue with yellow is the way to go. I saw someone else do it pretty well: CoolMiniOrNot - Empire - Knight Templars by sithlord Or maybe blue/green/white. I guess a solid paint job and a few nice touches is all I can hope for... With that in mind, any ideas for cool unit/character conversions like the pavise thing.) I plan on using crossbowmen, swordsmen, knights, and a few other odds and ends.
As far as themeing goes...not sure how much I have to offer. When I used to do Mordheim ages ago I did a conversion to all the models and gave them wolf pelt hats and cloaks and jackets using green stuff. Kind of a Baltic Sea / NW Russian theme to them. Looked pretty cool if your willing to take the time on the hats. Also... looks really cool on models with guns of any sort.
In terms of Pavises....not really conducive to that theme, but could work for many others. More of a North Italian thing. But for finding Pavises.... Look up the Braganza's Besiegers Dogs of War models. Not sure if you can still get them (I just came out of 5 year retirement), but I think those are the ones that used to carry around Pavises.
outside of the empire wizard and captain boxed sets, I agree, the empire models stink royally. I have made an army (not even close to completion) out of brettonian miniatures, which are better imo. I still use the outriders/pistoliers, but my massess of swordsmen are all bret peasants and the knights are a mixture of Bret knights with the empire knights. Cannons and helstrom are about the same. new empire infantry models really let me down though.
I actually like the Empire knights. The bare armor on the horses just looks better than the cloth. Its kind of like crotch rocket vs Harley Davidson or even a naked sportbike, the metal bits look so cool that there's no need to cover them up with flashy colors. I guess there is really not much I can do... I'm considering changing armies (since I haven't actually bought any Empire figs yet.) I know it seems superficial, but the hobby side of Warhammer as well as showing and being shown painted armies is half the fun for me.