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I made this post to ask about tactics on empire calvary and which one to take in a 2,000 point army, or both
Empire Cavalry is really good, when supported. With a +2 STR on the charge with the lance and a 2+ save they can strike a crushing blow. However, they really need to be supported!
By supported I mean that 2 groups of knights working as a team or a block of knights supporting a block of infantry.
If using 2 blocks of knights, the first block charges into a block of enemy troops and the 2nd block charges into the flank of the same enemy troops. Both blocks of charging knights should inflict casualties on the enemy troops. The flanking knights will cancel out the rank bonus of the enemy troops. You will usually cause the enemy troops to run and as cavalry you will easily run them down and destroy them. If you can hit a flank and make them run you can probably roll through their whole line.
Alternatively, when your block of troops charges into an enemy block, have your knights charge their flank again.
There are a couple schools of thoughts regarding knights. My advice would be to commit to one way or the other.
Style 1) Use large blocks of knights 8, 10, 15 or so per block and make huge steamroller units. Add your lords, heros, banners, magic items, inner circle etc.
Benefits: Its like dropping a large brick on your opponents army with a crushing attack.
Drawback: They become Enemy #1 and have a huge target painted on them. They will draw a lot of attention from your enemy. If they aren't supported and lose a combat, run away and you lose the unit you are probably losing 25% or more of your army and are destined to lose. As long as you don't go to extremes large blocks of knights can be effective.
Style 2) Use small blocks of knights 5 or 6 knights in a single row, no command.
Benefits: Nice tough charge capabilities, high movement rate, only costs about 115 points per block. "expendable" and can hold flanks.
Drawbacks: Not a steamroller unit can bounce off the enemy unless supported.
I guess the basic principle of the entire Empire army is one of support. No single unit is going to wade into battle and succeed on its own. Only through the coordinated use of the pieces can bring you victory.
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Honestly the empire cavalry can be truly devastating, but like most stuff it depends on what situation they are in. Jhon really hit the goblin on the head there though so take a few pointers from it.
Knights of the White Wolf have a 2+ but for regular orders its actually a 1+ save which is ridiculously good. This unfortunately does not translate into being immune against strength 3 hits. In the new addition of Warhammer knights of the Empire (I do not know about Brettonians but its probably true for them too) have full plate armor that gives them a 4+ save, better than heavy armor I do say.
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And don't forget, Empire Cavalry isn't restricted to knights, you also have Pistoliers...these make an excellent support unit, by charging the flanks / rear of units being charged in the front by Knights / Infantry. With a warrior priest in their ranks they can be quite devastating.
As far a Knights go, one thing I would say is never, ever take a unit of 8: it's a waste of points. Either take 5 or 6 in one rank, or take >10. Basically, the only reason to pay for Knights who aren't in the front rank is to give you a rank bonus (and arguably that isn't worth the cost...)...if you take a unit of 8, 1 casualty and you've lost that rank bonus, and wasted the points of the other three in the back row.
You are better off taking a Warbanner, in at least one unit. That's the equivalent of an extra rank for the cost of one more KNight.
you just solved the stallions problems. (or: hit the goblin on the head, lol) a recurring stratagy ive seen him use is takin a 9 man unit of white wolves sticking a grandmaster in it and charging ful speed a head. as this is usualy his only cavalry it is quickly flank charged several times and decimated. support is very important. white wolves are great, they rank up there with dragon princes and chosen chaos knightsI guess the basic principle of the entire Empire army is one of support. No single unit is going to wade into battle and succeed on its own. Only through the coordinated use of the pieces can bring you victory.