http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/ Need help with any rules? Post your question here en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:07:01 GMT vBulletin 120 http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/images/blueone/misc/rss.jpg http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/ http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183173-multiple-combats-who-gets-attack-whom.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:01:35 GMT Here's the simple scenario. Ork squad A is locked in cc with Marine squad B. Then Marine squad C joins in the melee and charges Ork A.

Now I've always played it that Ork can attack either Marine B or C depending on who is in b-t-b with whom.

Then this player I played against insisted this wasn't so and pointed this out to me in the BRB (p.41):

"Models that were engaged with just one of the enemy units at the beginning of the combat (before any model attacked) must attack that unit."

Thus, he said Ork A had to attack Marine B that turn. Then next turn it could attack either Marine B or C. Talking with a fellow LO-er on another thread here has put doubts in my mind again.

So how would you intepret multiple combat to work? ]]> 40k Rules Help jy2 http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183173-multiple-combats-who-gets-attack-whom.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183151-few-questions.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:46:50 GMT I have few questions regarding rules if anyone can help please. 1. If I have squad lets say sternguard for example and in the squad 3 guys have stormbolters and one guy has a heavy weapon (lascannon for example) - can I shoot my storm bolters at one infantry squad (within range) and shoot my... I have few questions regarding rules if anyone can help please.

1. If I have squad lets say sternguard for example and in the squad 3 guys have stormbolters and one guy has a heavy weapon (lascannon for example) - can I shoot my storm bolters at one infantry squad (within range) and shoot my lascannon at an advancing tank? Or does one squad have to focus all their fire at one squad.

2. Hellfire rounds - it says strength is X - it also says in it is '(poisoned) 2+' does this mean I just have to roll a 2 or more to wound? Also does it negate any saves?

3. If your enemy has a squad near you and they charge but they also have an independent character close enough to charge to - can they charge my squad with both their squad and independent character? If so do we do the assault in normal order (on initiative) but he attacks seperately with his squad and ind char and i get to strike back against both his squad and ind char (ie He rolls for his squad - then so do I, then he rolls for his ind char then i roll for my squad again against his ind char tis time)

Hope this all makes sense - these queries all came up in a battle on Tues :) ]]> 40k Rules Help Raihani http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183151-few-questions.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183131-spearhead-deployment-reserves-confusion.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:33:22 GMT Hey i have a question about spear head deployment, it's legal to bring reserves from your whole table edge?

I was told at my LGS that reserves had to come from the original deployment zone.
So if the opposite is true what pages do I reference in the rulebook to prove this to them in my next Sperhead game?

This could potentially be a very big deal in my games and tactical decisions as well as for everyone else that plays at the store. It seems like everyone took the deployment zone interpretation including myself when trying to comprehend 5th editon ]]> 40k Rules Help Akaiyou http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183131-spearhead-deployment-reserves-confusion.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183108-chaos.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:06:08 GMT Some of my friends and I are going to have a huge apoc game(every model we have), so I went out and bought the rulebooks for my brother who is the rules freak of our group and he was telling me that if I use my custom built Plague Tower to transport my dreadnought then my dread can fire from... Some of my friends and I are going to have a huge apoc game(every model we have), so I went out and bought the rulebooks for my brother who is the rules freak of our group and he was telling me that if I use my custom built Plague Tower to transport my dreadnought then my dread can fire from within without the crazed rule. Is this correct?

He was taking the crazed rule as a special ability and in transports models can't use special abilities or something like that. ]]> 40k Rules Help Lauster http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183108-chaos.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183088-does-counter-attack-work-when-already-combat.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:38:12 GMT Does counter-attack work when already in combat?

You charge one unit, another charges you, would you get the bonus? I would have thought not but I don't know. ]]> 40k Rules Help DoctorDogmeat http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183088-does-counter-attack-work-when-already-combat.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183032-four-simple-questions.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:34:18 GMT do you get cover if someone is shooting at you from inside area terrain? is your leadership minused by how many wounds you lose the combat by? does a ruin on area terrain count as area terrain? And if so would you get a cover save is someone was shooting you from a ruin on area terrain? do you get cover if someone is shooting at you from inside area terrain?

is your leadership minused by how many wounds you lose the combat by?

does a ruin on area terrain count as area terrain?

And if so would you get a cover save is someone was shooting you from a ruin on area terrain? ]]> 40k Rules Help ChocolateGork http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/183032-four-simple-questions.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182998-psychic-scream-changeling.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:24:48 GMT Small debate came up today, when playing a double game, the changling targets a land raider. His Glamour rule says that it can be targeted against vehicles because "Vehicles are effected too, but count as LD10"

Now the point we disagreed on was this. Psychic scream lowers any leadership test by 1. I had a choir so a -5 leadership check. Now should the raider check on LD 5, or as my opponent says, the vehicle always counts as LD 10, and so dosnt get effected by LD modifiers.

Who is right? ]]> 40k Rules Help Heirodule http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182998-psychic-scream-changeling.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182986-fearless-non-fearless-units-assault.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:38:51 GMT I have a feeling I already know the answer to this question, but it seems prudent to ask anyway:

Say I have a unit of really weak models and a monstrous creature that is fearless assaulting the same squad.

My opponent, realizing his squad can't possibly hurt the monstrous creature, directs all of his attacks at the large squad of weak models. By the end of combat, he has caused more wounds than my large unit and monstrous creature combined, and now large unit must make a leadership check.

Now, does my monstrous creature still have to save against a number of wounds equal to the amount I lost combat by, even though no attacks were directed towards it at all? Is this affected at all by whether or not the large unit of weak models passes their morale check? ]]> 40k Rules Help Axle_Gear http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182986-fearless-non-fearless-units-assault.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182946-glamour-tzeentch.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:30:46 GMT Can the Glamour of Tzeentch (Changeling) be used on physic powers? In the Daemon codex I quote “If the test is failed the unit must imeadiatley fire all of its weapons (no holding back) against a friendly unit. As usual down to interpretation, I reckon no. Comments please. Can the Glamour of Tzeentch (Changeling) be used on physic powers?

In the Daemon codex I quote “If the test is failed the unit must imeadiatley fire all of its weapons (no holding back) against a friendly unit.

As usual down to interpretation, I reckon no.

Comments please. ]]> 40k Rules Help Dual Mass http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182946-glamour-tzeentch.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182945-moral-tests-embarked-units.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:21:11 GMT What is the procedure for taking moral tests on units embarked in a building? (after being flamed half to death for instance) Similarly are units in buildings affected by non-psychic area effects that might cause them to fail moral and run (i.e. the Culexus assassin) - the 40k FAQ only covers... What is the procedure for taking moral tests on units embarked in a building? (after being flamed half to death for instance)

Similarly are units in buildings affected by non-psychic area effects that might cause them to fail moral and run (i.e. the Culexus assassin) - the 40k FAQ only covers the use of psychic powers at embarked units. ]]> 40k Rules Help A.T. http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182945-moral-tests-embarked-units.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182802-word-emperor-phychic-power.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:35:18 GMT Say you had a squad that contained multiple psykers who had the Word of The Emperor power, and all of them were to cast it in the enemies assault phase, would the enemy have to take a leadership test for each time the spell is successfully cast or would they take one Ld test reguardless of how many... Say you had a squad that contained multiple psykers who had the Word of The Emperor power, and all of them were to cast it in the enemies assault phase, would the enemy have to take a leadership test for each time the spell is successfully cast or would they take one Ld test reguardless of how many times its cast? ]]> 40k Rules Help V3xx http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182802-word-emperor-phychic-power.html http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182795-multiple-combat-question.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:07:00 GMT Here's some questions that came up in a recent game.

Scenario is Tyranids vs Space Marines.

Turn 4, Tyranids have 3 10 man unit of gaunts in combat with a space marine Captain in Terminator armour. Let's call them unit A, B, and C.

They each have one model in base contact and the rest are surrounding the Termi.

This has been an ongoing combat since turn 3.

So the space marines send a tactical squad now that it's bottom of turn 4. To assault 1 of the units in the combat. However they take a difficult terrain test to assault said unit getting a 4 and barely reach 2 Gaunts in Tyranid unit C.

The gaunts from unit C all get wiped out by the marines and the Terminator Captain also gets killed by the Gaunts in unit A & B in return.

So now units A n B are not in base contact with any enemy models (they were only in contact with the captain) and the tactical squad wiped out unit C which it assaulted and which was previously engaged with the Captain.

So does everyone consolidate or does the tactical squad get to keep all the gaunts from units A and B stuck in combat through "Pile-In" moves even though it had no models in base with it and did not allocate any attacks or anything onto them as they were only engaged with the captain.

I know that because they attacked unit C which was engaged with same captain that units A & B were engaged with, that the whole thing becomes a multiple-combat for determining which side lost and taking no retreat saves and all that.


My second question is pretty straight forward.

Can you shoot THROUGH combat? Is there a rule that prevents shooting through combat in the way it did in 4th edition? ]]> 40k Rules Help Akaiyou http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/40k-rules-help/182795-multiple-combat-question.html