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King Ulrik Flamebeard · December 16th, 2004, 18:10

This is a place where you can pose fluff questions, and hopefully have them answered by someone who knows the answer. This is NOT a 'ooh, look at me, I'm going to show off' thread. This is educational, for people who are perhaps looking for fluff answers or for theme ideas for their army.

For instance, a question could be "What is the Great Bastion?"
And someone could reply "I think it's like the Great Wall of China, but in Cathay, and much bigger."

KU

ugluk-bludeth · December 16th, 2004, 18:24

um..okay,
where can i find some good ork fluff then?
like the origin of Gork and Mork?
thanks

King Ulrik Flamebeard · December 16th, 2004, 18:33

Well the best Orc fluff to be found is from the 5th ed army book, or from online sites such as dawarpath. Other than that you're limited to what you can find, because GW saw fit to get rid of the great parts of the books

You should be able to find the book cheap on ebay.

But sorry to say GW are lacking in the Gork & Mork area, not even the old ed book has anything baout them in it.

KU

WiCkEdRock · December 16th, 2004, 18:34

I would check earlier editions of their army books.
I don't think there's much about them in the 5th ed either..

ugluk-bludeth · December 16th, 2004, 18:50

thanks for the input. i have the books you mentioned and fluff is scarce. which is why i am on my never ending quest to find good ork fluff!
thanks agian.

DavidWC09 · December 26th, 2004, 03:55

I read all of the above, but I still don't feel like I know what constitutes fluff.

Fenris · December 26th, 2004, 04:32

fluff is the backround behind your army or race either you can make up your own or Games-workshop makes fluff for all their races.

SkyTyrant · December 31st, 2004, 02:33

I have a question. What exactly are the Old Ones? I know at some point GW was trying to make the Fantasy world a part of the 40k one, but called it off. Half the time the Old Ones sound like space aliens seeding the world with life, anyway. But, since I hear 40k and Fantasy are definately not in the same continuity, space aliens doesn't fit. Are they the counterparts to the Chaos Gods, gods of Order? Are they actually gods in their own right, or simply incredibly powerful beings?

Also, which races owe their existence to the Old Ones? I know most of the Lizardmen races were created or evolved by them, and that the Halflings and Ogres are also their creations. What about the Dwarves and Elves? I'm guessing that humans are not one of their creations, and they evolved on their own and represent a monkey-wrench in everyone's plans.

archonofdeath · December 31st, 2004, 07:52

They can still be from space, like the Slaan. The Slaan in fantasy are from space (I think, atleast I heard that allot). They are just not connected to 40k anymore (I beleive they are what the old ones were in 40k, or atleast one of the races created by them).

WiCkEdRock · December 31st, 2004, 09:52

No, they are not space aliens. They where created by the old ones to help maintain the order of the world they had created.
Read the Lizardmen book, they have alot of fluff concerning the old ones and the creating of the world, and how it became infected with chaos. The birth of man should be there aswell.
Maybe give a try to find the 5th edition lizardmen book too?

The big question is: where does gork and mork come from? How did they create the greenskins? Is there anything in the Warhammer Roleplay-books? I heard they have alot of fluff never mentioned in other books.

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ugluk-bludeth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: tennessee Age: 33 Posts: 680 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 66	um..okay, where can i find some good ork fluff then? like the origin of Gork and Mork? thanks __________________ wWWwwAaaaAAgggGGGhHHHhhh!!!! = DeAth

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King Ulrik Flamebeard Bearded and Dangerous Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sheffield, England Age: 25 Posts: 6,968 Blog Entries: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts Rep Power: 185 Total Awards: 1	Well the best Orc fluff to be found is from the 5th ed army book, or from online sites such as dawarpath. Other than that you're limited to what you can find, because GW saw fit to get rid of the great parts of the books You should be able to find the book cheap on ebay. But sorry to say GW are lacking in the Gork & Mork area, not even the old ed book has anything baout them in it. KU __________________ The Humungous Bearded Project Log The Hobbyist's Golden Rules LOBBA Season I has begun!

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WiCkEdRock LO Zealot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: GOBBOLAND! Posts: 1,430 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 74	I would check earlier editions of their army books. I don't think there's much about them in the 5th ed either.. __________________

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ugluk-bludeth Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: tennessee Age: 33 Posts: 680 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 66	thanks for the input. i have the books you mentioned and fluff is scarce. which is why i am on my never ending quest to find good ork fluff! thanks agian. __________________ wWWwwAaaaAAgggGGGhHHHhhh!!!! = DeAth

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DavidWC09 /botnobot/ Award-Showcase Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Wayward, Texas Posts: 11,791 Thanks: 3 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 195 Total Awards: 7	I read all of the above, but I still don't feel like I know what constitutes fluff. __________________ Blood Gruel the Flatulent Seeks an Army--All the Elves in my Forest--NEW Painting Videos My Warriors of Chaos--Subscriber Benefits--WHFB Tactica Index *************************************************

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Fenris Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 67	fluff is the backround behind your army or race either you can make up your own or Games-workshop makes fluff for all their races. __________________ What is life but a series of tests?- excerpted from more than mortal Quantity has a Quality all its own- Stalin

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SkyTyrant Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 63	I have a question. What exactly are the Old Ones? I know at some point GW was trying to make the Fantasy world a part of the 40k one, but called it off. Half the time the Old Ones sound like space aliens seeding the world with life, anyway. But, since I hear 40k and Fantasy are definately not in the same continuity, space aliens doesn't fit. Are they the counterparts to the Chaos Gods, gods of Order? Are they actually gods in their own right, or simply incredibly powerful beings? Also, which races owe their existence to the Old Ones? I know most of the Lizardmen races were created or evolved by them, and that the Halflings and Ogres are also their creations. What about the Dwarves and Elves? I'm guessing that humans are not one of their creations, and they evolved on their own and represent a monkey-wrench in everyone's plans.

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archonofdeath LO Zealot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Carnegie Pennsylvania, US Age: 22 Posts: 1,824 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 76	They can still be from space, like the Slaan. The Slaan in fantasy are from space (I think, atleast I heard that allot). They are just not connected to 40k anymore (I beleive they are what the old ones were in 40k, or atleast one of the races created by them). __________________ A man is least himself when he speaks in his own person, but give him a mask and he will tell the truth. - Oscar Wilde I hate when people have anime sigs. Why must you make me cry again?

December 31st, 2004, 09:52	#10 (permalink)
WiCkEdRock LO Zealot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: GOBBOLAND! Posts: 1,430 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 74	No, they are not space aliens. They where created by the old ones to help maintain the order of the world they had created. Read the Lizardmen book, they have alot of fluff concerning the old ones and the creating of the world, and how it became infected with chaos. The birth of man should be there aswell. Maybe give a try to find the 5th edition lizardmen book too? The big question is: where does gork and mork come from? How did they create the greenskins? Is there anything in the Warhammer Roleplay-books? I heard they have alot of fluff never mentioned in other books. __________________

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