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Imperial_Might001 · April 17th, 2005, 23:23

well, my friends slayers where there, and they lost combat, Do they autobreak because it is all phcology. We wernt sure if it is the same....

tnks in advance

Lurch · April 17th, 2005, 23:39

Refer to page 112 of the warhammer rule book. Unbreakable units are immune to fear, terror, panic and any other psycology rules. They never run from combat even when beaten by a fear causing enemy, prefering the fight to the death option.

§ilent§torm · April 17th, 2005, 23:39

Unbreakable includes Immune to Psychology. The whole point behind it is that they never run away (or break), ever. It IS the name of the rule. Besides, slayers want to die, their names include giantslayers, trollslayers, daemonslayers, I don't think they're going to have trouble with some skeletons.

Imperial_Might001 · April 17th, 2005, 23:42

they did when my vampire lord was in the unit....lol

Lurch · April 17th, 2005, 23:47

They may have had trouble killing the vampire lord, but I bet they didn't run off

:p

DavidVC04 · April 18th, 2005, 15:26

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Originally Posted by §ilent§torm

Unbreakable includes Immune to Psychology. The whole point behind it is that they never run away (or break), ever. It IS the name of the rule. Besides, slayers want to die, their names include giantslayers, trollslayers, daemonslayers, I don't think they're going to have trouble with some skeletons.

It's not exactly the same, though. Wouldn't a banshee's howl hurt a slayer unit?

King Ulrik Flamebeard · April 18th, 2005, 15:52

Slayers are unbreakable; thus as per the rules they never have to take any Psychchology or break tests. Ever. Thus anything that doesn't affect a ItP unit don't affect them either, so no the Banshee's howl won't work.

Any ItP isn't the same as Unbreakable; the main difference being ItP units still have to take Break tests, Unbreakable ones don't.

KU

DavidVC04 · April 19th, 2005, 02:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Ulrik Flamebeard

Slayers are unbreakable; thus as per the rules they never have to take any Psychchology or break tests. Ever. Thus anything that doesn't affect a ItP unit don't affect them either, so no the Banshee's howl won't work.

Any ItP isn't the same as Unbreakable; the main difference being ItP units still have to take Break tests, Unbreakable ones don't.

KU

I don't know. On page 270 of the BRB is the statement: "Unbreakable units never need to take Break tests and are also immune to psychology tests such as fear, terror, or frenzy."

It's not a statement that covers all psychology tests, only a few. Even with the vague "such as," it's still not an exhaustive statement.

And a howl's efficacy is not based on a leadership test. It is based on leadership, yes, but nonetheless it is not a leadership test. It's no different than someone taking a toughness test because of a magic item, or basing results on initiative in some circumstance.

Is there an FAQ or Errata addressing this kind of thing that I should be looking at? Or more detailed rules for unbreakable?

bonjordo · April 19th, 2005, 03:45

immune to psychology means that they are immune to pyshcology. they never take psychology. if the banshee's howl states "take a psychology test" then the slayers are immune, because as stated they never take them

Colonel_Kraken · April 19th, 2005, 14:39

I work under the assumption that banshee howls and tomb king casket of souls affect slayers. They still have Ld 10, which makes them a though nut to crack even with these specail attacks.

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Imperial_Might001 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Age: 19 Posts: 106 Rep Power: 52	unbreakable units , loosing to fear. well, my friends slayers where there, and they lost combat, Do they autobreak because it is all phcology. We wernt sure if it is the same.... tnks in advance

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Lurch LO Zealot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Essex Age: 35 Posts: 1,327 Rep Power: 55	Refer to page 112 of the warhammer rule book. Unbreakable units are immune to fear, terror, panic and any other psycology rules. They never run from combat even when beaten by a fear causing enemy, prefering the fight to the death option. __________________ Helper monkey, bring me beer and donuts

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§ilent§torm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 21 Posts: 746 Rep Power: 66	Unbreakable includes Immune to Psychology. The whole point behind it is that they never run away (or break), ever. It IS the name of the rule. Besides, slayers want to die, their names include giantslayers, trollslayers, daemonslayers, I don't think they're going to have trouble with some skeletons. __________________ Irresponsibility No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood Mistakes It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others Underachievement The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower

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Lurch LO Zealot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Essex Age: 35 Posts: 1,327 Rep Power: 55	They may have had trouble killing the vampire lord, but I bet they didn't run off :p __________________ Helper monkey, bring me beer and donuts

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King Ulrik Flamebeard ...lost the game! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sheffield, England Age: 24 Posts: 5,215 Rep Power: 117 Total Awards: 1	Slayers are unbreakable; thus as per the rules they never have to take any Psychchology or break tests. Ever. Thus anything that doesn't affect a ItP unit don't affect them either, so no the Banshee's howl won't work. Any ItP isn't the same as Unbreakable; the main difference being ItP units still have to take Break tests, Unbreakable ones don't. KU __________________ Current Project: Orks \| Miniature albums \| http://wellofpaints.blogspot.com/

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Imperial_Might001 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Age: 19 Posts: 106 Rep Power: 52	they did when my vampire lord was in the unit....lol

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bonjordo I AM CAN HAS CHEESEBURGER Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 18 Posts: 946 Rep Power: 52	immune to psychology means that they are immune to pyshcology. they never take psychology. if the banshee's howl states "take a psychology test" then the slayers are immune, because as stated they never take them

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Colonel_Kraken Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: City among the seven mountains, Norway Age: 22 Posts: 827 Rep Power: 60	I work under the assumption that banshee howls and tomb king casket of souls affect slayers. They still have Ld 10, which makes them a though nut to crack even with these specail attacks. __________________ I kill two dwarves in the morning, I kill two dwarves at night. I kill two dwarves in the afternoon, and then I feel allright. I kill two dwarves in time of peace, and two in time of war. I kill two dwarves before I kill two dwarves, and then I kill two more. Goblin kroozade of revengyness: win:19 draw:10 loss:9

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