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Okay, the issue is this, i just baught two more havocs today with missile launchers, and a set of spare marines, so I think ill seperate them into "anti-tank" and "anti-infantry" effectively, and i was just wondering if anyone could give me a hand, cos i dont think i can use 2 h bolters in a squad, so the anti inf squad will be fairly limited in its ability, unless i use it more of a distraction?
any ideas or tips for me?
Havocs are an interesting option for most chaos armies.
I recommend you load out with weapons with the same range and purpose in the same havoc unit.
4 hvy Bolters +meat shields or 4 missile launchers+meat shields etc etc. This way if you shoot a tank with your havocs you wont waste any anti infantry fire and / or have half the weapons be out of range or some other silly thing.
If you load up with 4 missile launchers you are killing tanks if you laod up with 4 heavy bolters you are killing crowds.
as for your 2 heavy bolters get a 3: rd and you are in business
3 Heavybolter amrines + 3 meatshields = very annoying unit.
i thought it says in the codex i can only have one of each of the weapons, but i guess this isnt so, as my original plan was mass missiles, but i was just thinking about maybe chosen.. but they'd be better for a CC role or some sort of support because of infiltration.
You can load up with up to 4 heavy weapons of any combination so enjoy your misslie launchers.
Chosen are a bit expensive IMO. Try 10 havocs including pfist champ and 4 plasmaguns in a rhino and then take 2 more squads just like it.
Well i have 2 plasma guns and a few plasma pistols and im considering taking all the plasma guys and putting them into one squad, im still scared of gets hot rolls but oh well, s*** happens ey. Also, by meat shields, do you mean pack the havoc squad with vanilla soldiers so that if any get picked off, i can take out un-upgraded soldiers and save the heavy weapons for later?
yep. Most people here on LO refers to them as either meat shields or ablative wounds. try to stick one non-upgraded marine in yur havoc squad for every heavy weapon in it. If you have intercept units such as raptors/bikes you should skip getting a champ for your havocs. If you don't get a champ as the 4 : th meat shield in an 8 man havoc squad. I think the most popular combo right now is 2 missile launchers and 1 lascannon in a 6 man squad without champ and with Icon of chaos glory so they don't run. or just go for 3 missile launchers.
since they are static I would suggest taking more heavy support choices as you definetly want to be able to place them last.
I got the lascannon, 3 missile launchers, 3 h bolters so i can turn it easily into 2 seperate squads:
manhunter and tankhunter, with the extra plasma guns, should i just cram them into the first csm squad so all the plasma guns are in use? or leave em out, my original csm is just bolters with ac/ pfist/ppistol.
no. save the plasmaguns for something else all the heavy guns outrange palsmaguns so you will be out of range against alot of targets. also if the enemy is at 24" from your havocs so you can fire with them you only get 1 shot. imo plasmaguns are made for rapid fire so you would still not be at optimal range 8X
sounds like you yourself some nasty havocs there. What would the rest of the list look like? no pont in using havocs unless you ahve a plan. 0:
well i got a defiler, i really should have baught a pred today instead of all this, but i wanted to expand without tanks, i have a friend thats selling me HEAPS of chaos, and tanks and heroes so when i get that, its going to be hell
I dont know what plan i have yet.
well what do you like best? shooting people up or bashing in their faces screaming FOR KHORNE?
Predators really are good. I dont like defilers that much can't use them in less than pairs though on the other hand with 2 defilers on the table nobody is going to bother shooting up your havocs.
since you started working on havocs I would guess you would be comfortable with a tactical shooting army.
lots of havocs some artillery and a few 10 man marine squads and possibly a raptor squad to unstick your units from cc. those lists are alot of fun to play too