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Hi. I have just started building my new chaos army, and have decided to make it to the best standard I can.
I am going to put mini magnets in some of my models so I can use all the options available to the model without having to buy any new bits where I can. Such as icon bearers and my terminator lord.
...but I've come to a slight problem. Things such as termies and havocs - when you buy a box set of 5 of these guys, they all come with different weaponry, and once you've stuck it on - that's it. Does anyone know any places that sell chaos parts (other than obviously eBay) or is there another way around this problem I don't know of? - I'm fine to say ''hey this las-cannon is actually a heavy bolter,'' in the games I play at home with my friends, but if I do in the future decide to use them for tournament play I want them to be as customizable as possible - without having to spend a fortune on buying the same figure 5 times just so he has all the upgrades available! - also doesn't help that GW have ditched selling bitz
"It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop"
Aside from ebay (which by the way, most sellers also have their own websites), you can try googling Battlewagonbits. They have a respectable bit inventory, though, I haven't purchased bits in some time; there may be other sites currently better stocked or lower priced.
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There are also various workarounds for chaos depending on what kit you want to trade around.
- Firstly, most heavy weapons troopers require a specific arm pair and possibly back pack, so it's seriously easier to just make seperate models (i myself have a little collection of HW troopers that get traded in and out of squads depending on what I want). I found it's also cheaper to get the space marine Devastators, as they have many more weapons, which look better and are all plastic which can easily bit chaosified with spikes etc.
- Wargear such as icons, grenades I handle a bit differetly. People enforcing the WYSIWYG rule do it in a funny way in that if you don't have something modelled, you don't have it, but if you have it modelled and just don't 'say you have it / pay for it' people are generally ok with it. To this end, it's often just easier to load up the models with all the potential wargear (they will invariably look nicer too, which is also what your after). On the side, I model Icons similar to how Marine Seargents have backbanners, so it's a little subtler and easier to get away with.
- Special weapons are interesting again. most of the marine ones are meant to be held 2-handed bolter style, so I began by building the marine and leaving their arms empty. I then painted up all my special weapons and used tiny amounts of blue Tac to hold he guns in place. over time I have started to glue the guns in for models that i know what i want, and I will proabably do that for all of them over time.
- Vehicles are probably the only thing big enought to magnetise realistically. Predators are a pain, but dreadnaughts and defilers are dead easy becuase the weapon joins are already indented. again I woul recommend adding the wargear onto the models even if you aren't always going to use them
- Termies and models that require the entire arm to be replaced are the trickiest I found. I admittadly just took an (educated) stab at what I wanted and glued the models. You could try to magnetise or pin them, but it would be such a small join and seems to fiddly for me to do. If you cruise the forum, you'll be able to pick up some decent unit setups that should save you making 'useless' models.
Last edited by Iaphyr; March 27th, 2008 at 00:23.
Thank you Iaphyr, that's a great help
"It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop"
Hey,That sounds a bit fiddly for someone that wants to save time and money. My rede:I am going to put mini magnets in ... icon bearers and my terminator lord
Don't use Icon Bearers, or you'll need one for every squad. That's a quagmire.
Have the Unit Champs carry Personal Icons or use interchangable banners.
You'll soon find that any Units without a Champ won't need an Icon.
You may want to reconsider the Termi Lord, too; it's a lovely model, but a poor HQ choice.
If you're into the Daemon Weapon thing, use a Jump Pack Lord.
They're loads more effective than a lumbering solo Termi.
Otherwise, just use a DP like everyone else . . .Worse, they all include the dime-a-dozen Bolter and Missile Launcher dudes. Forget that.havocs - when you buy a box set of 5 of these guys, they all come with different weaponryI don't recommend that course if you're serious about building an army of 2000+ points, but ...Does anyone know any places that sell chaos parts
... is a great source for discount rank-and-file troops.
Consider three of these:
Macragge Space Marines Squad x10
And three of these:
GW Online : Warhammer 40,000 : Chaos Space Marines : Assembling Chaos Space Marines
Note: The Macragge figs aren't brilliant, but they're easily corrupted:
Let's do the math:
3x Macragge squads = 14 Bolter Dudes w/ Champ, 3 PW Champ, 3 MLauncher, 6 FGun, 2 MGun and 2 PGun (30 models)
(Swap 3 Champ CSwords for CSM PSwords, 7 BGuns with 2 CSM MGun, 2 PGun and 3 FGuns.)
3x CSM squads = 3 Bolters and 21 Bp/ccw w/ 3x Fist, 3x HBolter (30 models)
Get those cheap Heavy Weapons sorted first:
2x Units of 7 Havoks w/ 3x MLauncher and 3x HBolter leaves plenty of figs for Troops and Chosen.
The minor conversions I suggested will yield:
3x 8-man Bp/CCW Chosen squads with 1 or 2 FGun +PF Champ, and
3x 6-man Bolter squads: One each 2x Flamegun +PW Champ, 2 MGun/Champ and 2 PGun/Champ.
This is just one possible combination, but it's cheap and effective up to @1500pts. Just add HQ. :- )Finish off with three Lascannon models for Troops Units, and you're chock-full-o-nuts.I want them to be as customizable as possible - without having to spend a fortune on buying the same figure 5 times
65 Marines cost 975pts. Squad upgrades and HQ will get you to 1500pts for @US$200.
Loads of useful models at bargain prices (Thanks, Neal!)
Use the money you've saved to expand to 2500pts with Termis and Raptors.
The Termi Lord is a poor HQ, but a brilliant Champion model for your Vets.
FWIW, my Raptors are Marine models with paired wire nuts in place of backpacks. ;- )
Good luck, and have fun!
Pla - The Frugal Warsmith - ya
A while back I wrote up a guide on how to magnetize individual Chaos Space Marine weapons. Here is a link if you want to go check it out. I have done this so far with four or five of my troops and it is working out nicely. I can swap out the special weapons for my squads as well as the powerfist/powersword on my aspiring champion.
Check out my blog for army pictures and more - The Hogs of War
I just recently bought some stuff from bitzbox. They are in the UK so shipping takes a bit but they were gernally cheaper than battlewagon.